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Old 07-27-2016, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas/SF Peninsula/South Lake Tahoe
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If I had to do it all over again, I probably would have taken the same conservative route and retired at 51. My 2 adult kids are on the same track . . . Thank goodness.

I have witnessed to what "FREE" yields and creates. No, thank you.
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Why Is Radical Socialism Gaining in Popularity?

Because the real history of all forms of collectivism/statism is not taught at all.

Unless there are a whole lot of people lining up clamoring for deprivation, slavery, and ultimately diving into mass graves...
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I am really frightened by the fact that Bernie Sanders and his radical socialist agenda is so popular with a lot of young people. Most millennials--who were not around when the USSR was in existence--lack a total understanding of the dangers posed by Marxism. Everybody wants the government to provide free stuff for them, but a lot of people don't understand the high price tag associated with these "freebies." I seem to recall that even the very liberal New York Times mentioned that Sanders agenda is based on unrealistic thinking. But what scares me is that the Democratic Party continues to drift further and further to the left.

I honestly do not understand why so many people find far-left ideas appealing. As I indicated previously, the only explanation as to why I think that such ideas are making a comeback is that many of Sanders' voters were not alive when the Soviet Union was around.
Look north of the border pal. Canadians have it about 1000 times better than the average American worker and guess what? Our country is FAR to the left of anything Bernie wants and we ain't "SOCIALISTS"!!!!!
99.9% of all Americans would not know a socialist if it up and bit him in the face. The country is so politically ignorant it's almost beyond belief. Equating Bernies ideas with those of the USSR is just way out there in outer space somewhere!
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Old 07-27-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Okay...go skate along Keep your taxes to yourself there comrade..."free" things are the most expensive things in reality.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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I am really frightened by the fact that Bernie Sanders and his radical socialist agenda is so popular with a lot of young people.
Sanders' "socialist agenda" might be radical by American standards, but it's pretty moderate by global standards.

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Most millennials--who were not around when the USSR was in existence--lack a total understanding of the dangers posed by Marxism.
No, millions of millenials were born in the early 1980's, and the USSR did not collapse until 1991.

We've been around enough to know that Communism was just a really dysfunctional, authoritarian version of Marxism. There are countless varities of Marxism out there. Other countries like Denmark and Austria are heavily Marxist and have more freedom than Americans; the main difference being that they recognize the concept of "positive liberty" and not just the reductive American mentality of "negative liberty is all liberty"

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Everybody wants the government to provide free stuff for them, but a lot of people don't understand the high price tag associated with these "freebies."
No, they understand. It's called taxes.

Now, if you're middle class -- that is, you derive your income from wages -- you already have the highest tax burden of anyone in the United States, and it goes primarily to support the military, SS, and Medicare. It's the "Capitalists," with their passive income, who need to start paying taxes.


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I seem to recall that even the very liberal New York Times mentioned that Sanders agenda is based on unrealistic thinking. But what scares me is that the Democratic Party continues to drift further and further to the left.
The New York Times is like the Democratic Party or any of the major "center left" media outlets; centrist, moderate, always complaining about far-left social issues but ultimately very corrupt supporting the status quo in terms of economics.

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I honestly do not understand why so many people find far-left ideas appealing. As I indicated previously, the only explanation as to why I think that such ideas are making a comeback is that many of Sanders' voters were not alive when the Soviet Union was around.
Well, first you'd have to understand how the 2008 financial crisis occured. Most right-wing people have no clue how it happened, and I'm not really in the mood to explain it to them.

But the bottom line is that the government has been following right-wing economic theories for about 30 years now, and while it's grown GDP, it's created severe economic inequality.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:06 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Bottom line is both "left" and "right" and "our" entire government are puppets of the Central Banking Families and serve only the Money Cartel's interests. Everything else is smoke and mirrors to keep the slaves fighting amongst themselves instead of turning on our true enemies, the State and the Chosen Families.

That the Omnipotent Financiers have brainwashed the young into embracing deprivation and slavery to the State is genius.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:31 PM
 
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Few want radical socialism, or socialism at all.

You Americans have no idea what that word means. I live in a nation that already has much of what Bernie wants for America and we're very much capitalist.
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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I am really frightened by the fact that Bernie Sanders and his radical socialist agenda is so popular with a lot of young people.
Whats wrong with a tax on groups that can afford them, and then using the tax dollars to finance the college education of low income Americans? (its like public schools.)

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Most millennials--who were not around when the USSR was in existence--lack a total understanding of the dangers posed by Marxism.
Perhaps you are correct about those dangers, but there are other dangers as well. Some experts predict that in the next 20 years robots will take 47% of all human jobs. What will economic life be like when 47% of Americans loose their jobs to robots? And how can the American people continue to live good lives in a robot worker future without having at least some socialist principles?

Rise of the Machines: The Future has Lots of Robots, Few Jobs for Humans | WIRED

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I honestly do not understand why so many people find far-left ideas appealing. As I indicated previously, the only explanation as to why I think that such ideas are making a comeback is that many of Sanders' voters were not alive when the Soviet Union was around.
Public colleges to increase the intelligence of young Americans does not sound so unappealing to me, and it sounds much better than Donald Trumps plan to add $24.5 trillion dollars to our national debt in the next 20 years by giving the richest 20% of Americans supply side tax cuts.

Trump

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports
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Old 07-28-2016, 04:50 AM
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Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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That's partly true... but they are also the freeloader class, so naturally they go to Bernie like moths to a dim bulb.
There were no freeloaders in the Soviet Union. None. Zero.
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:20 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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The allure of utopia
The allure of free stuff
The victim card drumbeat
The disconnect of the rich
Still living in mommy and daddy's house

There is more
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