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Old 07-30-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Of course the dialogue was much longer then posting here, my point was to respond to this question by the o.p., and the assumption (?) of radical socialism being what was taking place over these last months politically, and if thats what it was at all. (at least some of the time)
You may be on to something. Maybe they aren't praising collectivist authoritarianism, but rather they are non-thinking emotional supporters of a nice authoritarian simply because he is nice.

Not too long ago the youngsters loved the nice Ron Paul who was for human freedom (the exact opposite of authoritarianism and slavery offered up by Sanders).

So it may be that they follow anything that is not mainstream simply because it appears different. We definitely need more Ron Pauls so that the kids can support outsiders who champion human freedom
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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Most young people don't really understand how the world works. They have been taken care of by their parents for most of their lives and they want to continue on as an adult with the government as their surrogate parent. Many haven't yet started a career and those who have are hit with a harsh reality which they aren't psychologically prepared for. Bernie Sanders appeals to their desire to be taken care of. They want to remain in a child like state, where they don't have to be true adults, but instead children in adult bodies.
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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What the underclass who identify as liberals don't understand is that the very richest of the rich, the uber rich, the ones who are getting richer at everyone else's expense, they have the politicians in their pockets. The government won't change to help the poor, the poor must be kept poor to remain powerless.
Its the middle class that are being targeted. Once they go, the games over.
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Old 07-30-2016, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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Just part of historical swings. Also college professors encourage it...I bought it in college. I do eventually believe they win and drive us toward Venezuela.
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Old 07-30-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Why didn't you ask them and how is college supposed to be free? Someone has to pay for it.

Yes, it is pie in the sky thinking. It's pretty scary how some younger people think these days. Or don't actually think.
I don't think young people connect free stuff to someone else paying. Heck, while growing up we don't realize our parents pay for stuff, are in debt, we just know we got to go to Disneyland and the food was free. Not sure how to change this, but when the government encourages kids staying home until 26, we certainly have a problem. Then, those same kids don't want to take care of mom and dad in their old age.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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I don't think young people connect free stuff to someone else paying. Heck, while growing up we don't realize our parents pay for stuff, are in debt, we just know we got to go to Disneyland and the food was free. Not sure how to change this, but when the government encourages kids staying home until 26, we certainly have a problem. Then, those same kids don't want to take care of mom and dad in their old age.
I think you're right. The sad thing is we're not talking about 12 year olds going to an amusement park. By the time you're well into your 20s you should have a handle on what things cost.

An example, I got a wedding invitation for a couple who are in their late 20s. They make between them in the six figures. The trend now is a wedding website and they ask you to donate to various funds. You can donate to a "honeymoon fund" or a "down payment on a house fund"....WTH? Besides being tacky, the entitlement is amazing. You want to buy a house? Than put money aside for it.
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Old 07-30-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Interesting thought, because they all actually still live at home!, which I don't understand. Another subject, but is characteristic of a problematic frame of mind.

By the way, I know of 3 people who live here without citizenship, and. have citizenship in Canada so that they can use their healthcare. If they have surgery, etc., they go to family in Canada for 2 weeks, a month, and get the medical treatment they need, and come right back here. So, how on earth does Canada do it? They must be aware of this kind of thing going on no?
It's not that easy to do. In order to qualify for Canadian healthcare you muct be a resident of your province or territory for varying amounts of time. Since our medical system is provincial and not federal the rules are not the same in every jurisdiction. This is what it is for my home province of Ontario.

you make your primary place of residence in Ontario; and generally,
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days of the first 183 days immediately following the date you establish residence in Ontario (you cannot be absent for more than 30 days during the first 6 months of residence); and
you are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period. It's not easy to get around these rules.

I do hope that all of you Americans know that Canada's cradle to the grave universal healthcare costs our government far less per capita than what the USA spends on healthcare. The whole difference is that the US model is corporate in nature and the Canadian model is service oriented and not corporate at all. Estimate vary but a middle of the road estimate is that the Canadian model gets at least 5 times the bang for every dollar spent in the system over that of the USA. What costs our system $2,000 costs the US system $10,000. The thing that conservative Americans do not understand is that the for profit medical system is not in any way sustainable and if not reformed from the top down will break the government. It's just not affordable for the nation. The people who work within the system who are not Dr.s are very well paid seeing it's 100% unionized. The Dr.s are pretty much all self employed and could be considered as being independent contractors working within the system. My oldest boy and his wife are both specialists, he's a trama specialist and she is anesthesia specialist. Together they make over $600,000 per year which in my mind is quite enough. My son gets constant invites for him, her and the kids to take up practise in the USA. Some are promising over $2,000,000 a year for the pair of them. My son says, "do they think I'm a professional athlete or something? I don't need or want that kind of money for treating sick people". That is not an uncommon feeling among Canadian Dr.s. They are well paid service people practising their trade or craft rather than business people trying to maximize profits.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Grove City, Ohio
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Doesn't help that our universities/professors are churning out thumb sucking leftist taught snowflakes. Maybe we should up the age of voting.
Turning it back to 21 would go a long way.

Hope is eventually these youngsters will grow up.

http://therealside.com/2016/06/hey-bernie-venezuela-feels-the-burn-any-thoughts/
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