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Old 07-28-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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here's a few things he said at least 16 years ago before he ran for president before he was even republican

Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
•Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)

Prepare for upcoming crash, bigger than 1929. (Jul 2000)
•Optimistic about future of Atlantic City. (Jul 1990)
•Rent control only benefits a privileged minority. (Jul 1987)
•One-time 14.25% tax on wealth, to erase national debt. (Nov 1999)
•Predicts 35% boost to economy from eliminating national debt. (Nov 1999)

Tolerate diversity; prosecute hate crimes against gays. (Jul 2000)

Capital punishment isn’t uncivilized; murderers living is. (Jul 2000)
•Death penalty deters like violent TV leads kids astray. (Jul 2000)
•Hold judges accountable; don’t reduce sentences. (Jul 2000)
•For tough anti-crime policies; not criminals’ rights. (Jul 2000)


he's been pro school choice which is for the people since 2000

Teach citizenship; stop “dumbing down”. (Jul 2000)
•End “creative spelling,” “estimating,” & “empowerment”. (Jul 2000)
•Bring on the competition; tear down the union walls. (Jul 2000)
•School choice will improve public schools. (Jul 2000)

Criticized Buchanan’s view on Hitler as appeasement. (Jul 2000)
•Post-Cold War: switch from chess player to dealmaker. (Jul 2000)
•Support Russia, but with strings attached. (Jul 2000)
•China: lack of human rights prevents consumer development. (Jul 2000)
•Be tougher on China-we’re too eager to please. (Jul 2000)

Renegotiate tougher & fairer trade agreements. (Jul 2000)
•President should be nation’s trade representative. (Dec 1999)
•World views US trade officials as ‘saps’. (Dec 1999)


Government scrutiny is greatest threat to American Dream. (Jul 2000)
•Ban soft money; but allow unlimited personal contributions. (Jul 2000)
•Government should do public works & safety & little else. (Jul 2000)
•Rebuilt Wollman Rink in 4 months; city failed for 6 years. (Jul 1987)


Dems and Reps are both wrong on guns. (Jul 2000)
•For assault weapon ban, waiting period, & background check. (Jul 2000)


We must have universal health care. (Jul 2000)

3% of GNP for military is too low. (Jul 2000)
•Missile defense is inappropriate; focus on terrorism. (Jul 2000)
•Prepare for bio-terrorism attack. (Jul 2000)


Control borders; even legal immigration should be difficult. (Jul 2000)
•Limit new immigration; focus on people already here. (Dec 1999)


Unions fight for pay; managers fight for less; consumers win. (Jul 2000)
•Foreign companies are taking jobs from US. (Dec 1999)

3 principles: One term, two-fisted policies, zero excuses. (Jul 2000)
•Non-politicians are the wave of the future. (Jul 2000)
•Burned by press too often to be available any more. (Jul 1990)
•Toughness is equally strength, intelligence, & self-respect. (Jul 1990)



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Are you sure Trump is for the American people? or is he only saying that he's for the people?

Look at Trump University -- Trump said pay me 35k and I'll teach you how to get rich. The students got nothing in return. No degree. No certificate. No college credits. The ripoff was so bad eleven states are suing him for racketeering and fraud.

With Clinton, we basically get Obama's third term. Status quo. I'd rather have that than trust the presidency to a scam artist who will be in court for racketeering and fraud. Donald Trump is a fake and the Repubs know it. That's why Bush, Romney, etc. stayed away from the convention.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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very similar to what he says nowadays.
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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Both parties are moving left in their own way, the religious right are on the way out which is not a huge loss for the Republicans. The Democrats are slowly abandoning the middle class such as union workers in high paying positions. They are favoring progressives, socialists, fringe groups, criminals and illegal immigrants to fill that void. This in my opinion will spell doom for them in the future. A fiscally conservative and socially liberal candidate will dominate in the years to come, that is your Republican of the future.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Nescopeck, Penna. (birthplace)
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Both parties are moving left in their own way, the religious right are on the way out which is not a huge loss for the Republicans. The Democrats are slowly abandoning the middle class such as union workers in high paying positions. They are favoring progressives, socialists, fringe groups, criminals and illegal immigrants to fill that void. This in my opinion will spell doom for them in the future. A fiscally conservative and socially liberal candidate will dominate in the years to come, that is your Republican of the future.
We've already been here for nearly fifty years; we're known as Libertarians.
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Old 07-29-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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yeah that's why the republican party didn't want trump to be the nominee. But if he does win. It's his party. And in turn the people's party as he is anti-establishment.
I never heard Trump (or any other candidate) saying that they were going to eliminate fiat currency, allow other forms of "legal tender", abolish usury, and abolish partial reserve "banking". Until those things happen the puppet government (and the slave people) will continue to only serve the interests of the Central Banking Families... I doubt Trump even understands the immoral and evil slave system we call the "monetary system"...
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Old 07-29-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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The liberals and conservatives have switched places. A lot of what "conservative" are trying to conserve is old liberalism.Let me count the ways.

* where are the stupid people?
Used to be the conservatives would sing out of the Sunday morning hymnal to drown out the lefties like mindless drones. "Gimme me that old time religion" . The lefties were hip. The Conservatives had fuglly girlfriends with horn-rimmed glasses. Now its fat, feminist trigglypuffs

* who hates free speech?
Instead of insulting Jesus and Mary on religious grounds , ya can't insult Mary cause its sexist. Can't insult black Jesus either .. Hey, I wonder if the dino-conservatives have thought about that yet? They really should consider going with the black Jesus thing. Jesus was no big dumb Swede and you know it....So why not restore the sanctity of Jesus with a little PC Teflon? Black Jesus- go with it.

* whose funny?
A few of the old liberals might be but any liberal under forty is deadly serious about the stupidest crap. Can't make any jokes when 1 in 2 -1/2 women are being raped on college campuses( yeah, now there are half women being raped due to the "I decapitate you" spike. ). However the left doesn't mind that the half woman is being raped.That doesn't get them a-head They are only concerned about the two passed out drunks being raped with assurances that their drunk boyfriend would go no further than partial penetration. Leftist liberalism has turned into a drama. Its like the ole Day of the Lord repent oh ye, or locusts... crap. They are puckered up. They are church lady.
* whose well read?
Boy I tell ya, I am old enough to remember that I had to be ready anything from the Story of O to Euell Gibbons. i had no idea where that wild carrot was going to end up. I did not know if i was going to run into some lefty who just did some acid and sped read though Plato's dialog. I got the sweats from thinking about and even read Herodotus on the toilet to keep up. Now its just "racist, sexist, sexist , racist, hetronormativeoheticiticalosnufolufficalgitcallity tityty"


* who looks at skin color
When i was a kid I was like: " Who cares about skin or if she is a girl man? What's up with that? . If ya can do it , do it."

Now they are counting it all up like a waitress splitting tips with the bus boys. Got a have a fat one , a tall one, a brown one , an orange one, while ignoring the poor girl who had to deal with a bunch of spoiled frat boys.


The left today is what is starched up walking around with jack boots. Some people call Trump daddy but Obama should be called father or Nancy Pelosi will beat you with a ruler.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Yes. The people should trust and follow the billionaire. He's anti-establishment.
Who cares? Aren't you following your billionaire? Oh, right. Maybe it's just millionaire.

No one in politics is anti-establishment. They ARE the establishment.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Both parties have establishment elements. But I feel like in this sense the Democratic party always had stronger favoring towards establishment candidates the gop has. And according to the leak in emails it looks like they put up candidates and pretend that the people have a choice but rig their primary behind the scenes. While the republican candidate can go against the establishment choice sometimes. Like with Donald Trump despite the establishment still not liking him he's still the nominee. I think in part it helps that there is no super delegate count in the gop. Hillary Clinton still has not clinched the nomination with just her pledged delegates. Yet the DNC seems to have ignored that because I guess the people's choice doesn't really matter. It seems overall more choice with the gop as they started their primary with 17 candidates while the democratic party had 3. If Donald Trump is elected president. I wonder if the party will remain the people's party. I mean if that's how to win an election. Democrats seem democratic in name. I mean their chairman rigged their primaries blatantly and obviously favored a candidate. It also seems they didn't have any true outsiders. Bernie sanders was a politician since the 90's. It seems they won't be beholden to the people when our choice didn't really matter either way Hillary was going to be the nominee no matter what. I wonder if the democrats will be against the people's choice while the republican party will become the people party if trump gets elected. Do you think it would?


I think it's also a once in a lifetime chance to get a candidate like Donald Trump who's actually for the American people. And put here because the American people. I find it funny that Hillary Clinton says that one person can't fix it but it's the American people's burden to create change. My next thought is what is what is she running for then? A career boost? This country has too many issues to afford that type of presidency and it's been so long that we have the same type of presidency as she describes it appears.
Dems are so elitist that they're fighting for higher minimum wages, higher thresholds for exempt aka salary employees, expanding access to low-cost healthcare, fighting for unions and higher wages, fighting to keep higher education affordable, etc...
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Out of the two of them, it's Trump who won't be able to get anything done as President. Hillary can get loads done, but it seems like it depends on which puppeteer is holding her strings at any given time. Kind of a cruel joke really.
All we need is The Wall, the Ban, and a veto pen. We don't want anything to "get done".
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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Dems are so elitist that they're fighting for higher minimum wages, higher thresholds for exempt aka salary employees, expanding access to low-cost healthcare, fighting for unions and higher wages, fighting to keep higher education affordable, etc...
And you left out fighting to keep poor kids with a poor education. Why?




And raising the minimum wage just loses jobs for the poor. Some companies for instance give some people who need it a second job like McGuire research services. They wouldn't be able to do that in this cituy if the minimum wage was high they'd only be hiring those who were very well experienced. Which hurts the unemployed that needs a job to put food on the table. Also many people would fired because they'd need a smaller workforce and more efficient at that.


So yes the liberals love to hurt the poor in the two ways we've both come up with. By keeping the poor unemployed and with poor quality educations by preventing them to have school choice.
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