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Old 08-04-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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LOL, great entertainment in these posts. I think you overestimate just how much the average people cared about slaves. They were pretty busy staying alive in those days.

Imagine how far you would have gone in life without these worthless thoughts going through your head.
They cared enough to go to war to KEEP slaves, so obviously they cared enough.

And yeah, I'd probably be even further ahead of you than I am now.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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"Everybody else is doing it" is no excuse for immorality.
Ahh, the classic "I wouldn't have 1427 values" spoken from someone looking at things through 2016 eyes.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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The Bible reads the same then as it does today. However, the Priest interrupted the Bible for their parishioners. Then along came a man named Martin Luther who declared (officially in 1517 by letter to the Roman Church) Christians can have a personal relationship with God and they no longer needed the Priest to do their bidding to God in forgiveness for their sins.

Martin Luther posts 95 theses - Oct 31, 1517 - HISTORY.com

"By the time Luther died, of natural causes, in 1546, his revolutionary beliefs had formed the basis for the Protestant Reformation, which would over the next three centuries revolutionize Western civilization."

Social evolution, takes time.

One day, abortion may be condemned just as slavery has for those living in past societies. When that day comes people will look at those in the 21st century and the Bible won't be there for them to blame.
I agree. Social norms, values and religion are not static throughout history.
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Old 08-04-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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Ahh, the classic "I wouldn't have 1427 values" spoken from someone looking at things through 2016 eyes.
In 100 years there may very well be commonly held morals/values that will make today's morals/values look barbaric/cruel. In fact, it's nearly certain.

As an anarchist I believe in a stateless society upheld by the non-aggression principle. Not a new thought. Not an original thought. Lysander Spooner, who was vehemently anti-slavery in the Civil War era, held many beliefs that I hold now.

If anarchy comes to fruition I'll be thrilled (though I can't see it happening in my lifetime). In any event, I would rather try to convince others of my values/theories than "out-moral" them. Life isn't going to be much fun if you need to be right over the experience of trying to get to a better place.
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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I agree. Social norms, values and religion are not static throughout history.
But wasn't the Bible static though?

So people were bigger hypocrites back then?
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Old 08-04-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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But wasn't the Bible static though?

So people were bigger hypocrites back then?
Isn't the interpretation of religious text continually changing hand in hand with values of norms? I'd say they aren't static - a priest from 1500 years ago probably wouldn't see eye to eye on a lot of things with the current Pope.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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1. The vast majority of Democrat superdelegates were elected officials. Elected. Representatives of the general public.

2. If you think Bill O'Reilly is an independent and that with any frequency that he votes for a Democrat, you are seriously deluded.

3. It is true that most American churches said slavery was wrong. And yet, particularly throughout the South, most slave owners were long-time members of those churches.
Before you make an uneducated claim look it up......he happened to have voted for Obama twice. You people know nothing about Fox news.......nothing about the people you just say what you want without looking into it. You're nothing but a cherry picker!
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Old 08-04-2016, 11:21 PM
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Anything to whitewash history. Its a waste of time to argue this point with those that think of you as subhuman .
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:55 AM
 
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Anything to whitewash history. Its a waste of time to argue this point with those that think of you as subhuman .
Pretty much.
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:05 AM
 
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Anything to whitewash history. Its a waste of time to argue this point with those that think of you as subhuman .
Whitewash? That's racist!!!!
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