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Old 08-11-2016, 05:22 AM
 
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It's worth noting, personally, I've never mistaken you (Ellis Belle) for "someone who cares" as you entitled one of your replies to me. I think you've made your position perfectly clear.

...“It would be only fair to the reader to say frankly in advance that the attitude of any person toward this story will be distinctly influenced by his theories of the Negro race. If he believes that the Negro in America and in general is an average and ordinary human being, who under given environment develops like other human beings, then he will read this story and judge it by the facts adduced.

If, however, he regards the Negro as a distinctly inferior creation, who can never successfully take part in modern civilization and whose emancipation and enfranchisement were gestures against nature, then he will need something more than the sort of facts that I have set down.

But this latter person, I am not trying to convince. I am simply pointing out these two points of view, so obvious to Americans, and then without further ado, I am assuming the truth of the first. In fine, I am going to tell this story as though Negroes were ordinary human beings, realizing that this attitude will from the first seriously curtail my audience.

W. E. BURGHARDT DU BOIS

Atlanta, December, 1934”

Excerpt From: Du Bois, W. E. B. (William Edward Burghardt), 1868-1963. “Black reconstruction; an essay toward a history of the part which black folk played in the attempt to reconstruct democracy in America, 1860-1880.”
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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It's worth noting, personally, I've never mistaken you (Ellis Belle) for "someone who cares" as you entitled one of your replies to me. I think you've made your position perfectly clear.

...“It would be only fair to the reader to say frankly in advance that the attitude of any person toward this story will be distinctly influenced by his theories of the Negro race. If he believes that the Negro in America and in general is an average and ordinary human being, who under given environment develops like other human beings, then he will read this story and judge it by the facts adduced.

If, however, he regards the Negro as a distinctly inferior creation, who can never successfully take part in modern civilization and whose emancipation and enfranchisement were gestures against nature, then he will need something more than the sort of facts that I have set down.

But this latter person, I am not trying to convince. I am simply pointing out these two points of view, so obvious to Americans, and then without further ado, I am assuming the truth of the first. In fine, I am going to tell this story as though Negroes were ordinary human beings, realizing that this attitude will from the first seriously curtail my audience.

W. E. BURGHARDT DU BOIS

Atlanta, December, 1934”

Excerpt From: Du Bois, W. E. B. (William Edward Burghardt), 1868-1963. “Black reconstruction; an essay toward a history of the part which black folk played in the attempt to reconstruct democracy in America, 1860-1880.”
I'm not someone who cares, to change another person's mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._E._B._Du_Bois#Religion

I will say this. At one time I inspired to be a journalist. The editor I worked for, told me of a woman that he knew, she wrote for Christian publications and Pent House. Pent House paid more ... just saying.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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"These statements, however, were contradicted by Union survivors, as well as the letter of a Confederate soldier who graphically recounted a massacre. Achilles Clark, a soldier with the 20th Tennessee cavalry, wrote to his sister immediately after the battle:

"The slaughter was awful. Words cannot describe the scene. The poor, deluded, negroes would run up to our men, fall upon their knees, and with uplifted hands scream for mercy, but they were ordered to their feet and then shot down. I, with several others, tried to stop the butchery, and at one time had partially succeeded, but General Forrest ordered them shot down like dogs and the carnage continued. Finally our men became sick of blood and the firing ceased.[37]""

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

This is the same General Forrest who later went on to become the grand wizard of the KKK in TN. If I'm not mistaken there are statues of him throughout the former Confederate Slaver States.
What was it you told me? War is hell?
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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What was it you told me? War is hell?
War IS hell, & assassinations are not 'honor' killings.

& you were the one saying General Forrest was going to free his slaves.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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Bill O'Reilly Wants You To Know That The Slaves Who Built The White House Were Well-Fed

"Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor."

What in the world could this passage mean? Could O'Reilly really thing that how well a slave is fed is a cogent argument - that "cuisine" offered makes slave-holding less of an abomination?

Do some people really think slavery was some kind of entry level job with just a few "perks?"


On the railroad building they gave the Chinese and Irish the more dangerous jobs as if they were killed they were worthless.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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War IS hell, & assassinations are not 'honor' killings.

& you were the one saying General Forrest was going to free his slaves.
Honor killings, depends on a person's interpretation.

I didn't say General Forrest was going to free his slaves, he said it.

One day people are going to realize, color doesn't matter. If General Forrest was not a man of honor and in the keeping of his word, then he would not be some one I'd listen to either.

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Old 08-11-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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One day people are going to realize, color doesn't matter. ...
Hopefully one day it won't matter. But today it obviously does.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Hopefully one day it won't matter. But today it obviously does.


To whom?
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Hopefully one day it won't matter. But today it obviously does.
We were heading there and Obama and the liberals derailed it. No way the Liberals will ever allow that.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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To whom?
Just look at all the people on C-D alone who are involved in threads with racial topics.

Does one party tend to get over 90% of the Black vote?

Does one party tend to get a huge majority of the Latino vote?

Whether we want it to matter, or not, it does.
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