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Old 07-27-2016, 12:50 AM
 
Location: SC
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Bill O'Reilly Wants You To Know That The Slaves Who Built The White House Were Well-Fed

"Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor."

What in the world could this passage mean? Could O'Reilly really thing that how well a slave is fed is a cogent argument - that "cuisine" offered makes slave-holding less of an abomination?

Do some people really think slavery was some kind of entry level job with just a few "perks?"
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:58 AM
 
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Isn't Obama kinda wrong to say "built by slaves" if free blacks, whites and immigrants also worked on it? I'm sure the design/blueprints were also made by whites.

Is it racist to point out the living conditions of slaves that worked on the White House?
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:32 AM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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Isn't Obama kinda wrong to say "built by slaves" if free blacks, whites and immigrants also worked on it? I'm sure the design/blueprints were also made by whites.

Is it racist to point out the living conditions of slaves that worked on the White House?
No, it isn't "kinda wrong," and you might be surprised about the design/blueprints because many black slaves were very skilled artisans and craftspeople.

The problem with the "living conditions" conversation is that it is a distraction and completely beside the point, about as clear as an example of a rhetorical red herring that folks would be able to find.

The White House was, in fact, as M. Obama stated, built by slave labor and ingenuity.
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:34 AM
 
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The slaves did not build the White House. They took part in it. The men who designed it and did the skilled labor built it.
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:43 AM
 
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You'd think that we'd be at a point where trying to downplay slavery would be career ending or at least horribly frowned upon by EVERYONE, but alas, we are not at the point yet. Ignore the fact that they weren't free, were owned by others, and were treated as sub-human as a result; they had food and shelter, they should have been thankful!

It's funny that in attempting to casually brush off slavery as not so bad, he inadvertently kind of defends undocumented immigrants by observing that once it wasn't considered unethical to come to the US without official citizenship so long as you contributed to society and took care of yourself.

First it was "white people created civilization"

Now it's "being a slave wasn't so bad"

What will they think of next..
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:49 AM
 
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Bill O'Reilly Wants You To Know That The Slaves Who Built The White House Were Well-Fed

"Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor."

What in the world could this passage mean? Could O'Reilly really thing that how well a slave is fed is a cogent argument - that "cuisine" offered makes slave-holding less of an abomination?

Do some people really think slavery was some kind of entry level job with just a few "perks?"
I have no idea why anyone thinks that is a thing to bring up. well....for being illegally held against their will, they didn't have it so bad.
And you picked a perfect word for it, abomination.
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:57 AM
 
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Slaves were treated very well in America. It's well known that slaveowners loved their slaves as if they were their own blood family. They would've never mistreated them.

Sure slaves wanted to be free, but white people knew what was better for black people than black people themselves. Blacks just didn't know how good they had it. Sure, they could beat you and sell away your family (something they did very often), but what's the big deal? Blacks got used to it anyway. Besides, the Bible told them that they were supposed to obey their master's orders.

And who are blacks to go against God, right? I think this is something that we can all agree with.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:09 AM
 
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Slaves were treated very well in America. It's well known that slaveowners loved their slaves as if they were their own blood family. They would've never mistreated them.

Sure slaves wanted to be free, but white people knew what was better for black people than black people themselves. Blacks just didn't know how good they had it. Sure, they could beat you and sell away your family (something they did very often), but what's the big deal? Blacks got used to it anyway. Besides, the Bible told them that they were supposed to obey their master's orders.

And who are blacks to go against God, right? I think this is something that we can all agree with.
I think most Americans are appreciative of the struggles and hardships their ancestors went through to give them the life they have today. And then there are the crybabies.....
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:12 AM
 
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I think most Americans are appreciative of the struggles and hardships their ancestors went through to give them the life they have today. And then there are the crybabies.....
I don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know what the average American is appreciative of. As for crybabies, i'll defer to you since you're the expert.
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Old 07-27-2016, 03:13 AM
 
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No, it isn't "kinda wrong," and you might be surprised about the design/blueprints because many black slaves were very skilled artisans and craftspeople.
Any evidence they had a hand in the design of the White House? From what I can tell it was designed by James Hoban with inspiration from Roman, Greek, French architecture.

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The problem with the "living conditions" conversation is that it is a distraction and completely beside the point, about as clear as an example of a rhetorical red herring that folks would be able to find.

The White House was, in fact, as M. Obama stated, built by slave labor and ingenuity.
A more accurate statement would be "slave labor helped build the White House".

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