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Old 07-28-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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There is. It's called gross negligence.
(or as Comey called it, extreme carelessness.")
People have gone to jail for leaving classified information on their desk.
What law did she break? FBI says none.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Then why haven't they released any of those e-mails?
If they did, they would expose the fact that they have them. They've denied it repeatedly.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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If they did, they would expose the fact that they have them. They've denied it repeatedly.
Then why don't they give them to Wikileaks? I'm sure Assange would love to have them.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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There is. It's called gross negligence.
(or as Comey called it, extreme carelessness.")
People have gone to jail for leaving classified information on their desk.
Comey actually distinguished between the two. Because one rose to the level of criminality, and the other didn't. And the FBI investigation decided that Secretary Clinton's actions didn't rise to the level of criminality.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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If they did, they would expose the fact that they have them. They've denied it repeatedly.
Or maybe they don't have them.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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What law did she break? FBI says none.
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Under 18 USC 793 subsection F, the information does not have to be classified to count as a violation. The intelligence source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity citing the sensitivity of the ongoing probe, said the subsection requires the “lawful possession” of national defense information by a security clearance holder who “through gross negligence,” such as the use of an unsecure computer network, permits the material to be removed or abstracted from its proper, secure location.
Subsection F also requires the clearance holder “to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer. “A failure to do so “shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/gross-negligence-1445017423
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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It's a good thing, then, that the FBI concluded that while Secretary Clinton was extremely careless, her actions didn't rise to the level of gross negligence.
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Old 07-28-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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What law did she break? FBI says none.

In addition, it was a crime to fail to turn over all work related emails to the State Department.
There were thousands of work related emails deleted.

Clinton failed to hand over key email to State Department | Fox News
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WASHINGTON – Former Secretary Hillary Clinton failed to turn over a copy of a key message involving problems caused by her use of a private homebrew email server, the State Department confirmed Thursday. The disclosure makes it unclear what other work-related emails may have been deleted by the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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It's a good thing, then, that the FBI concluded that while Secretary Clinton was extremely careless, her actions didn't rise to the level of gross negligence.

Perhaps you can explain the difference between "extreme carelessness" and "gross negligence."
They appear to be synonymous, unless yer in the tank for the Hildabeast.

People have been prosecuted for accidentally leaving classified information on their desk while going to the bathroom.
http://www.dhra.mil/perserec/osg/s1class/secviol.htm
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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Perhaps you can explain the difference between "extreme carelessness" and "gross negligence."
They appear to be synonymous, unless yer in the tank for the Hildabeast.
One is criminal, the other is not.

Sorry that that bothers you so much.
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