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Old 07-28-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What evidence?

I have yet to see a single piece of evidence.

You dems are so desperate that you have gone full on conspiracy theory.

Seriously, your tinfoil is too tight.
Well you're only going to see what you want, not beyond a reasonable doubt but certainly points to Russia.


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Vocativ reported Tuesday that ThreatConnect had discovered the hacker used a predominantly-Russian-language VPN when he corresponded with them through a French AOL account. ThreatConnect matched that same internet address from the same VPN to the Mail.com email.
Evidence mounts linking DNC email hacker to Russia | TheHill

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The “hacker” who distributed a host of Democratic Party files insists he both speaks no Russian and is not Russian. Yet, he used aRussian-language VPN when speaking with journalists, according to expert analysis of the emails. In those emails, he urged Vocativ to write about the files.
Guccifer 2.0 Is Likely A Russian Begging Us To Write About DNC Hack - Vocativ
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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follow the money-- think he doing all this for his attention?
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Who cares who leaked it. The fact is the democrats wrote those emails and now have egg on their face. So they call their liberal lapdog press buddies and complain it was the Russians. Who cares? Now Assange says he has a lot more where that came from. He hates Clinton and will drop it all on her soon. Have fun Crooked Hillary. it will get worse lol!!
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: NYC
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It's amazing how Trump supporters so willingly ignore the evidence that is presented to them.

Assange releases info that is leaked to him.

In the case of the DNC e-mails, Assange didn't hack into the DNC. Someone else did. And that someone else then leaked the e-mails to Assange. In this particular case, the hacker fingerprints, the traces that the hackers left behind, are the tell-tale traces of Russian state hackers. Ergo, Russian state hackers hack into the DNC. They then organize the information they've obtained. Cherry-picking the info they want to release, and releasing it according to a timetable they design. The vehicle they choose to use to release the info is Wikileaks.

Assange is a great vehicle to use, because he's not an American, but he is an avowed enemy of Clinton.
When the Obama/Hillary admin sent special agents demanding to extradite Julian from any countries harboring him. The US is the big bully here, because he's committed no international crime. They investigated his past and looking to jail him on a 20 yr charge forced him on the run to other countries. He is doing what he believes is right that the US should be brought to light all of the illegal acts our government has committed globally. Because our citizens are being brainwashed by the government controlled media. How are we any different than North Korea?

Same reason Eric Snowden is in Russia because he leaked information that we're being watched as well as our allies. Obama wanted him dead that's why he's hold out until there's a neutral administration that's willing to try him fairly.

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Old 07-28-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Who cares who leaked it. The fact is the democrats wrote those emails and now have egg on their face. So they call their liberal lapdog press buddies and complain it was the Russians. Who cares? Now Assange says he has a lot more where that came from. He hates Clinton and will drop it all on her soon. Have fun Crooked Hillary. it will get worse lol!!

When the tide turns then you balk- Anonymous rattles your cage right?
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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The DNC and the FBI were monitoring the DNC servers. The DNC followed the instructions of the FBI and changed its protocols each time there was evidence of a breach. The hackers were able to overcome the new protocols each time.

The reality is that a foreign government is taking active steps to affect the outcome of an American election. And Trump supporters are cheering them on, to the point that Trump is inviting them to keep on hacking.
I bet those hackers where able to breach the Secretary of State's unsecured servers at every single attempt with ease. After all, no DNC or FBI coming to the aid of that criminal activity. I don't think Trump supporters approve of that at all. But apparently that's ok. But its not ok, not by a longshot.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
It's amazing how Trump supporters so willingly ignore the evidence that is presented to them.

Assange releases info that is leaked to him.

In the case of the DNC e-mails, Assange didn't hack into the DNC. Someone else did. And that someone else then leaked the e-mails to Assange. In this particular case, the hacker fingerprints, the traces that the hackers left behind, are the tell-tale traces of Russian state hackers. Ergo, Russian state hackers hack into the DNC. They then organize the information they've obtained. Cherry-picking the info they want to release, and releasing it according to a timetable they design. The vehicle they choose to use to release the info is Wikileaks.

Assange is a great vehicle to use, because he's not an American, but he is an avowed enemy of Clinton.
Nope, Assange and the "Russians" are not the source of the emails. Guccifer was the one who hacked the server. Russian hacked Guccifer.

Fact is, any script kiddie with Kali Linux, or anyone who can code their own scripts could have had full access to everything on Hillary's "private" server.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:25 AM
 
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Nope, Assange and the "Russians" are not the source of the emails. Guccifer was the one who hacked the server. Russian hacked Guccifer.
No, that is not correct. "Guccifer" and "Guccifer v2.0" according to most cybersecurity experts, is a false front for Russian state-sponsored hackers.
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: NJ
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It's funny how the Democrats in the White House, FBI and Hillary Clinton
campaign never blamed Wikileaks as being a Russian front before,
but all of a sudden when the Wikileaks are against THEM, they deflect
and try to spin it against Trump, Putin, and anyone else but the source.

I ask.. where were they when Wikileaks uncovered Bush Administration
crimes and secrets ? Cheering them on !

Julian Assange is a hero genius who stands for peace and freedom,
but Hillary doesn't want you to understand WHY he does what
he does. The FBI wants to protect Obama and their own butts. Julian Assange, Edward Snowden,
heroes of the new data age.

Who stands for Americans freedoms and civil rights more
than Edward Snowden and Julian Assange ?

Assange promises to leak ‘a lot more’ materials on US presidential elections

“What we have right now is the Hillary Clinton campaign using a speculative allegation about hacks that have occurred in the past to try and divert attention from our emails, another separate issue that WikiLeaks has published,” Assange said.

“I think this raises a very serious question, which is that the natural instincts of Hillary Clinton and the people around her, that when confronted with a serious domestic political scandal, that she tries to blame the Russians, blame the Chinese, etc.,” Assange noted.

"If she does that when she’s in government, that’s a political, managerial style that can lead to conflict.”


Obama has told us Russia is not our enemy! and hillary backed him up!


Can we believe what obama and hillary tell us???


Any one of several foreign governments were handed hillay's email by hillary herself. so she must trust Russia among others..afterall she reset relations with russia!
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Old 07-28-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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When the Obama/Hillary admin sent special agents demanding to extradite Julian from any countries harboring him. The US is the big bully here, because he's committed no international crime. They investigated his past and looking to jail him on a 20 yr charge forced him on the run to other countries. He is doing what he believes is right that the US should be brought to light all of the illegal acts our government has committed globally. Because our citizens are being brainwashed by the government controlled media. How are we any different than North Korea?

Same reason Eric Snowden is in Russia because he leaked information that we're being watched as well as our allies. Obama wanted him dead that's why he's hold out until there's a neutral administration that's willing to try him fairly.
Julian Assange is also acting on deep biases against the Clintons. He's not the pure white knight you are depicting.

Eric Snowden is in Russia because he was employed by the US government and had obligations to protect the security of the US government. He chose to ignore those obligations. Whether he did so out of a commitment to a higher morality or not, if you break certain obligations to the United States government you are breaking the law, and such criminal behavior has repercussions.

And Obama didn't want Snowden dead. What tripe!
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