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Old 07-28-2016, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Several years ago I worked with a woman who met Bill Clinton. She said she was not prepared for how magnetic he was. She wasn't a supporter but said she totally understood why so many women were attracted to him.
Bill is definitely known for being a ladies man and has a lot of affairs and allegations of sexual assault by many women , it's quite a bit of baggage and the republicans will be bringing it up . I know trump already has

 
Old 07-28-2016, 01:33 AM
 
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Bill is definitely known for being a ladies man and has a lot of affairs and allegations of sexual assault by many women , it's quite a bit of baggage and the republicans will be bringing it up . I know trump already has
Funny how you turn it into assault. Her point was women were drawn to him, that she was actually drawn to him and it surprised her. Trump has more baggage than most airports can handle, as you will see in the coming months.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 02:10 AM
 
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I'm sure you could tell us first hand.
At a very early age I became interested in WWII because I had uncles that served and saw battle, one being a navigator on a bomber plane who came home with a war bride from England, the other uncle fought Okinawa. A family friend was a parachuter who didn't make it home.

Germans are said to be intelligent. This lead me to ask how intelligent people could be persuaded to support a Hitler. How dictators in any country were able to come into and maintain power. You should read about propaganda machines, the power of words used with the right tones at the right time, meant to lead people into a loyalist frenzy. The use of propaganda to make people believe they, the politician will save them. The function of unification.... They pick a target and work to unify the masses against them at the same time increasing loyalty for the politician.

People are too easy to believe in politicians who really only care about power. They are salesman pitching an agenda where the elite benefit the the little people rarely do. You'd be really surprised how easy it is for a good speaker to convince the masses to do and believe in evilness especially in a time when people are suffering financially. That's why our founding fathers set up checks and balances but expected the media to be the watchdog. But now the media is not doing it's job.

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Old 07-28-2016, 02:22 AM
 
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Without the media to keep politicians in line what chance do we the little people have? None. Don't you ever question with all the scandals why the media always diverts away from the scandal, always demonizes the people who dare ask the questions?

If you listen to a politician who's goal is to get into power fact check him or her. Never believe a propaganda machine designed to get your vote to put them in power. Hitler established a Ministry of Propaganda, appointing Joseph Goebbels. Today we have a corrupt corporate owned media.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 02:26 AM
 
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With the above said .... Ask at this point in time ask who is really p*ssed about the Wikileaks releases? See all the rhetoric being put out there to divert your attention away? To demonize anyone who asks for more? They hate Trump because he won't cower to them and they just can't seem to get him.

WikiLeaks is a not-for-profit media organisation. Our goal is to bring important information to the public, for purposes of accountablility. Wikileaks was founded by Jullian Assange and a few other people. People who upload content on wikileaks to out truths about governments, corporations and other powerful systems anonymously without any threat to their lives.

Just make sure you have appropriate documents to prove your claims. All of the content on wikileaks including the documents of proof etc. are available to anyone around the world to read freely. It's a good endeavour in a world where you can't trust the press and media to say the truth anymore.

Jullian Assange made a lot of enemies because of his quest to find the truth and tell the citizens about it. He and many of his colleagues have been extradited, threatened, deported and gone into hiding.

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Old 07-28-2016, 02:31 AM
 
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I'm truly amazed that many people don't understand the purpose of speeches and unification and blindly believe any politician. With that said, read these two statements....

"If you're watching, Madam Secretary, all three of us have brilliant ideas. And I especially put myself in that group with Joan and David. We know how to do this, we’ll get you in there."
-- Chris Matthews MSNBC

"Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted."
-- Barack Obama talking to a graduates.

I am not going to reject those voices. Too many people did and suffered and still suffer for their naivety.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I'm sure you could tell us first hand.
I don't compare Obama to Hitler, Hitler at least loved his country.

Obams is more of a Stalinist type of leader.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 03:08 AM
 
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I don't compare Obama to Hitler, Hitler at least loved his country.

Obams is more of a Stalinist type of leader.
Stalin, like most other dregs, hate everyone!

Newt Grinch was on TV last night saying that Obama was/is an exceptional orator.

Newt has always been a shovel of crap.

Even Trump can smell it.

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Old 07-28-2016, 03:21 AM
 
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Stalin, like most other dregs, hate everyone!

Newt Grinch was on TV last night saying that Obama was/is an exceptional orator.

Newt has always been a shovel of crap.
Stalin: His father slid into alcoholism, which made him abusive to his family and caused his business to fail.

Lenin: From the lower class he was a controversial and highly divisive man, Lenin is viewed by Marxist-Leninists as a champion of socialism

Stalin's rule, the concept of "Socialism in One Country" became a central tenet of Soviet society, contrary to Leon Trotsky's view that socialism must be spread through continuous international revolutions.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 03:22 AM
 
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I watch a lot of the history channel and many times they talk about how Hitler. One thing they talk about is how Hitler would start his speech off slower then go into a frenzy. I hear Obama talking on TV downstairs and he reminded me of the Hitler frenzy style of giving a speech.

hmm I wonder if Hitlers supporters got a tingle up their leg too.
My late father said that in 2008 as he couldn't listen or watch Obama as a Holocaust survivor due to the resembles.

My father wasn't talking about the words or proposals but about the presentation resembles of Obama's way of giving speech that scared my dad.
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