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Old 07-28-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Originally Posted by scarabchuck View Post
What does looks have to do with how deadly a gun is ?
He said looks, not me. I'm talking about the violence created by the capabilities of the gun itself.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Which are easier to commit with those guns.
It would be easier to use a bomb.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Which guns are not?

The primary purpose of keeping and bearing arms is for self-defense against criminals and a tyrannical government.

You tell me which gun is not for serving that purpose.
That's the difference. I'm not paranoid that the government is coming to get me. And I have 240 years of history to back that up.

Once again, show me the instances of people who aren't David Koresh and that ilk who have so many people coming after them that they need something that can shoot dozens of rounds in a scant amount of time.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer View Post
It would be easier to use a bomb.
Which, thankfully, are illegal to buy already assembled.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by OpanaPointer View Post
Seriously? Another sweeping generalization.

Sweeping generalization? Far from it, pal.

Words have meaning at the time written. To this day, they mean the same.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by OpanaPointer View Post
"Making **** up doesn't count as evidence."
Who's making sheet up, but you!
People, is not a word that generalizes People.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TristramShandy View Post
He said looks, not me. I'm talking about the violence created by the capabilities of the gun itself.
And again, isn't that the end user that dictates what the capabilities are ?
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by TristramShandy View Post
That's the difference. I'm not paranoid that the government is coming to get me. And I have 240 years of history to back that up.

Once again, show me the instances of people who aren't David Koresh and that ilk who have so many people coming after them that they need something that can shoot dozens of rounds in a scant amount of time.
Neither am I paranoid; however, history has taught me a very different lesson.

Also I must ask wasn't that, self-defense against a tyrannical government, the original intent of the 2nd Amendment?

Even at defense against criminals level, wouldn't an automatic M16 come in handy when facing looters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Police and military aside, I think the majority of AR-15's in this country spend their weekends doing nothing more harmful than punching paper.
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Not certainly. That is exactly what the Founders intended so we could defend Liberty from all who would trespass.

They have no clue at the time of the composing of the Constitution, that there would not be a standing ARMY. The people were the army and the peoples arms were used. Government then, nor today have any authority to have government arms(police force). We did not give them that power, after fighting a government for our liberties. One of which the British wanted the colonies to disarm.
Since we did not give them that power, it was reserved for the states, or the people(militia) to be the armies.
Before the civil war, it was all State Militia. The State Militias were rounded up to fight the civil war. There was not massive standing armies.
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