Democrat=Anti-Gun? (compared, support, prison, socialist)

[Mr. In-Between]

Originally Posted by jhoihdne

It has always been that way but in 94 when the Clinton crime bill passed banning the way some guns looked and mags they lost a crap load of seats in the congress. It put the fear of god into the left for over 10 years. The hoards are back at the gates again forgetting the last spanking they got. Now that said I can not say if things have changed in the American way of thinking in that time also. I hope they spank the left. They are dangerous. Making gun control and stupid mantras like love trumps hate BS. Ya you hug it out with the Terrorists I will cover you with my AR.

I think they learned their lesson last time, and won't be trying the legislative approach again. They're going to do it through the Supreme Court. Hillary will appoint at least 3, possibly as many as 4 justices, and by the time she's broomed out of office the 2nd Amendment will be (if not dead) terminally ill.

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by lifeexplorer

Putting guns in jail and sentencing them to death is what the Democrats have been doing.

Well, no, they haven't. Not even figuratively. So you can stop lying as well.

[PyroZach]

I think most Democrats really just want to find a reasonable solution to combating firearm related violence though unfortunately a proposed ban on "assault rifles" to many myself included comes across as infringing on the Second Amendment. If the Democratic Party could stop trying to ban certain firearms because they may look scary then I believe we can actually have a civil discussion on how to start combating this problem.

I also must point out that even though I am a Republican the current Republican controlled Congress will not let any form of legislation that the NRA doesn't like pass which isn't right in my honest opinion as we have to do something that wouldn't infringe on the Second Amendment while strengthening current laws to prevent firearms from falling into the wrong hands.

[Speleothem]

Originally Posted by PyroZach

I think most Democrats really just want to find a reasonable solution to combating firearm related violence though unfortunately a proposed ban on "assault rifles" to many myself included comes across as infringing on the Second Amendment. If the Democratic Party could stop trying to ban certain firearms because they may look scary then I believe we can actually have a civil discussion on how to start combating this problem.

I also must point out that even though I am a Republican the current Republican controlled Congress will not let any form of legislation that the NRA doesn't like pass which isn't right in my honest opinion as we have to do something that wouldn't infringe on the Second Amendment while strengthening current laws to prevent firearms from falling into the wrong hands.

Unfortunately, they never propose anything "reasonable."

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by Speleothem

Unfortunately, they never propose anything "reasonable."

Exactly

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by PyroZach

If the Democratic Party could stop trying to ban certain firearms because they may look scary then I believe we can actually have a civil discussion on how to start combating this problem.

That's how you start a civil discussion, by mocking why they want to ban those firearms? With. A. Lie?

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate

That's how you start a civil discussion, by mocking why they want to ban those firearms? With. A. Lie?

They are not trying to ban them because they are more dangerious because statistics show otherwise.

If democrats were worried about crime they wouldn't be softening sentencing requirements on criminals. A common sense solution would be to enforce strict sentencing guidelines against anyone who uses a gun in a crime. Democrats seem to think locking up criminals is racist for some reason.

[ajonesaz]

Originally Posted by NOLA101

Pro-gun control isn't anti-gun.

If anything, it's pro-gun. Only crazies think there should be no rules whatsoever when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. As with all Constitutional amendments, allowing something does not mean regulation isn't warranted. There are limits to free speech, there are limits to an armed citizenry.

For some reason, NRA nuts have been successful in convincing a small but fervent number of gun owners that gun control is somehow anti-gun. I don't get it. Gun owners have families too. Gun owners are members of society too. Why wouldn't they generally support gun regulation?

Yes, I am a gun owner, I also somewhat lean conservative. I have no issue jumping through a few hurdles to purchase a firearm. The NRA is a joke. Something similar to a drivers license would work for me.

[scarabchuck]

Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate

That's how you start a civil discussion, by mocking why they want to ban those firearms? With. A. Lie?

How is that mocking and how is that a lie ?
Many of the proposed bans have nothing to do with the functionality of the firearm, so they are basing their judgement on what makes it look like a military version.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/us...ated.html?_r=0


Obama Wants to Ban 'Assault Weapons' but Does Not Know What They Are - Hit & Run : Reason.com


Funny thing, this is far more powerful then the standard AR based sporting rifle
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...3%A9museum.jpg

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate

That's how you start a civil discussion, by mocking why they want to ban those firearms? With. A. Lie?

Come on man. Look up what the definition is for "assault weapon". It's based on features, like your car having AC or a backup camera.


Hard to have a civil anything with people who think a forearm extension to hold on to makes it more powerful and faster rate of fire.

folding stock makes a gun deadlier --> LIE

pistol grip makes a gun deadlier --> LIE

forearm grip makes a gun deadlier --> LIE

a scope makes a gun deadlier --> LIE

an AR 15 is a military weapon --> LIE

an AR 15 is completely different than a semi auto long gun --> LIE

an AR 15 is more dangerous than a pump shotgun or handgun --> LIE

Gun show loop hole --> LIE

A back ground check keeps criminals from purchasing a gun in a gun store --> LIE

A 10 round mag is less dangerous than a 30 --> Yep a lie, proven

A database of registered weapons will keep people safe -- > OMFG LMAO are you kidding me


Truths:

80,000 FELONS attempt to purchase a weapon each year, we average 4 convictions

Stealing a weapon that can be a felony to own is a misdemeanor

We release criminals early to commit more crimes

The chance of you being involved with a mass shooting are less than 1% In fact it's 0.00000143%

A felon can be denied buying a gun through nics, turn around and buy all the parts to build the same gun, in an hour, from the same store