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Old 07-28-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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You have rendered yourself irrelevant to any rational discussion with such ludicrous assertions.
As compared to all the other ludicrous assertions in this thread? Damn, I don't feel special any more.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The fear campaign the NRA has nothing to do with that, right?

The Constitution and specifically the 2nd Amendment has everything to do with it. The NRA are well regulated people. As in the RIGHT of the people. Not Citizens. Not Government. Not non-felons, not the mentally stable.... PEOPLE/PERSONS
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:39 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Where did you get your numbers?
Pull his finger and you'll find out.

Regressives like to think that all unregistered/non-voting poor people (euphemism there) are democrats.

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Which NRA backed regulation is not common sense?
It's the common sense ones that they are against that I take issue with.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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Pull his finger and you'll find out.

Regressives like to think that all unregistered/non-voting poor people (euphemism there) are democrats.



It's the common sense ones that they are against that I take issue with.
Which common sense one?
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Pull his finger and you'll find out.

Regressives like to think that all unregistered/non-voting poor people (euphemism there) are democrats.



It's the common sense ones that they are against that I take issue with.
I do not support the NRA, because they support laws on arms. Forbidden in the 2nd Amendment.
They are not as much of a friend to the 2nd amendment as everyone thinks. The NRA has push gun legislation and regulations, as a compromise. I do not compromise the right to arm myself, with what I choose(my liberty) and feel is best for me.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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The reason the NRA and millions of people who support the NRA are against any further gun control measures is because after each mass shooting there will be calls to ban more.
Despite the fact that the new legislation would do nothing to affect criminals while turning legit gun owners into criminals.

I've posted the following so many times that I've actually saved the quote on my desktop; I wish I could use it as a sig on this forum. It's a refreshing moment of candor from an influential anti-gun politician and it's worth reading again.

When President Clinton was considering tackling gun control early in his first term, President Carter’s press secretary, Jody Powell, sent him this memo:
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“As much as I hate to say it, the NRA is effective primarily because it is largely right when it claims that most gun control laws inconvenience and threaten the law-abiding while having little or no impact on violent crime or criminals. I support registration in principle, but two questions need to be asked. Are the people causing the problem going to comply voluntarily? If not, do you have a way to effectively enforce compliance?"
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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Pro-gun control isn't anti-gun.

If anything, it's pro-gun. Only crazies think there should be no rules whatsoever when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. As with all Constitutional amendments, allowing something does not mean regulation isn't warranted. There are limits to free speech, there are limits to an armed citizenry.

For some reason, NRA nuts have been successful in convincing a small but fervent number of gun owners that gun control is somehow anti-gun. I don't get it. Gun owners have families too. Gun owners are members of society too. Why wouldn't they generally support gun regulation?
Being anti-abortion is actually pro abortion because restrictions will mean abortions are done with lower risks.


Think about what you just wrote compare 1A restrictions to 2A restrictions in anti-anti-gun states and get back to us. The next time you pay a few hundred bucks and need to drive around the county to register your laptop for some specious reason of "preventing child porn" let me know.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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From watching the political landscape over the last few years, it seems to me that if you identify yourself as a Democrat then you pretty much have to be pro-gun control. The two appear to be inseparably linked. Sound reasonable?
I'd say it's about as accurate as conservatives all being pro-life

maybe not true for all, but most of them are.
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:50 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Which common sense one?
Registration
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Old 07-28-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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This is an absurd fantasy concocted by the NRA, and only believed by the absolute most gullible among us.

When anti gun advocates are trying to get the lead in bullets banned or you have ridiculous requirements like the one in NYC where you have a $450 non refundable fee to own a pistol that can be denied for any reason what else do you call it?

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There is not one politician out there who wants a gun ban.
Are you kidding?

If I could’ve gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them — Mr. and Mrs. America turn ’em all in — I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.

-Sen Diane Feinstein

Confiscation could be an option…mandatory sale to the state could be an option.

-Gov Mario Cuomo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVz2lHODQvs
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