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Old 08-02-2016, 07:27 AM
Status: "I hate living in Georgia!!" (set 9 days ago)
 
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While getting fired seems harsh, this is where I stand. I know what the Confederate cause was about. As someone who is a descendant of African slaves, the cause is something detrimental to me. I've read the Articles of Secession. Several times the desire to keep slavery is mentioned. Bleeding Kansas was about the expansion of slavery into the West. Knowing that, this is where I stand. One thing about police officers is this. I need to trust that said person will do their job without some kind of bias behind them. Someone who flies a Confederate flag, I certainly would not want them being a police officer. My issue with not with the police. My issue is with certain kinds of individuals being recruited into our police forces. It takes certain kinds of people to be police officers. Someone who flies the Confederate flag, or has extremist views, I would not trust that person on the streets.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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While getting fired seems harsh, this is where I stand. I know what the Confederate cause was about. As someone who is a descendant of African slaves, the cause is something detrimental to me. I've read the Articles of Secession. Several times the desire to keep slavery is mentioned. Bleeding Kansas was about the expansion of slavery into the West. Knowing that, this is where I stand. One thing about police officers is this. I need to trust that said person will do their job without some kind of bias behind them. Someone who flies a Confederate flag, I certainly would not want them being a police officer. My issue with not with the police. My issue is with certain kinds of individuals being recruited into our police forces. It takes certain kinds of people to be police officers. Someone who flies the Confederate flag, or has extremist views, I would not trust that person on the streets.
And the courts have to take the reasons for that into consideration. She was not fired for her speech but because she can no longer do the job she was hired to do.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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While getting fired seems harsh, this is where I stand. I know what the Confederate cause was about. As someone who is a descendant of African slaves, the cause is something detrimental to me. I've read the Articles of Secession. Several times the desire to keep slavery is mentioned. Bleeding Kansas was about the expansion of slavery into the West. Knowing that, this is where I stand. One thing about police officers is this. I need to trust that said person will do their job without some kind of bias behind them. Someone who flies a Confederate flag, I certainly would not want them being a police officer. My issue with not with the police. My issue is with certain kinds of individuals being recruited into our police forces. It takes certain kinds of people to be police officers. Someone who flies the Confederate flag, or has extremist views, I would not trust that person on the streets.

No ones beliefs can over power another persons beliefs, without harm or violence..... Thus we have the right to keep and bear arms to prevent that from happening.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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While getting fired seems harsh, this is where I stand. I know what the Confederate cause was about. As someone who is a descendant of African slaves, the cause is something detrimental to me. I've read the Articles of Secession. Several times the desire to keep slavery is mentioned. Bleeding Kansas was about the expansion of slavery into the West. Knowing that, this is where I stand. One thing about police officers is this. I need to trust that said person will do their job without some kind of bias behind them. Someone who flies a Confederate flag, I certainly would not want them being a police officer. My issue with not with the police. My issue is with certain kinds of individuals being recruited into our police forces. It takes certain kinds of people to be police officers. Someone who flies the Confederate flag, or has extremist views, I would not trust that person on the streets.
I think you know where I stand re: the Confederate Flag.

The investigative question in the internal investigation is: "Why she would have or allow the Confederate flag to be flown, especially in today's environment?"

The full story, including the conclusions reached in the investigative report, may not reveal the answer to that question.

She may have the constitutional right to fly that flag however lacks the constitutional right to be a Police Officer. She may have been found unsuitable for that particular Police Department's higher standards or expectations.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:47 AM
 
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ive seen the confederate flag twice in my life. both times it was white trash who had it on.

any white person i see with that flag i associate with trash.

glad shes fired.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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ive seen the confederate flag twice in my life. both times it was white trash who had it on.

any white person i see with that flag i associate with trash.

glad shes fired.
Good job judging people you don't know. Doubt you spoke to the folks you labeled "white trash".
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:19 AM
Status: "I hate living in Georgia!!" (set 9 days ago)
 
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And the courts have to take the reasons for that into consideration. She was not fired for her speech but because she can no longer do the job she was hired to do.
Freedom of speech is one thing. Being able to effectively do your job is another. Someone who flies the Confederate obviously espouses the Confederate cause. Anyone who espouses that, well, how do we know they will effectively do their job as a police officer?
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:21 AM
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I think you know where I stand re: the Confederate Flag.

The investigative question in the internal investigation is: "Why she would have or allow the Confederate flag to be flown, especially in today's environment?"

The full story, including the conclusions reached in the investigative report, may not reveal the answer to that question.

She may have the constitutional right to fly that flag however lacks the constitutional right to be a Police Officer. She may have been found unsuitable for that particular Police Department's higher standards or expectations.
It also goes to this question. Why was she flying that flag?
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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Freedom of speech is one thing. Being able to effectively do your job is another. Someone who flies the Confederate obviously espouses the Confederate cause. Anyone who espouses that, well, how do we know they will effectively do their job as a police officer?
What's the confederate cause in 2016? Do the confederates have a website or official documents stating their cause?
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:24 AM
Status: "I hate living in Georgia!!" (set 9 days ago)
 
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What's the confederate cause in 2016? Do the confederates have a website official documents stating their cause?
It's a lost cause now. Confederates lost, and rightly so. Considering that, why would anyone want to fly that flag in 2016? Think about it. It's an anachronism. It harkens to a cause that was heavily invested in maintaining the slave economy.
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