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Old 09-16-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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oh and trump just didnt wave a magic wand to make these people legal, there are certain requirements for them to meet before getting a work visa. and these people dont just come here and get a work visa, they go through a private company that supplies foreign workers to american businesses on a temporary basis. a former girlfriend of mine from jamaica went through just such a service to get her job.

you seem to think it is as simple as saying "ok the next 15,000 get their temporary work visa", but that isnt the case. just like people who want to emigrate here, they have to go through background checks, among other things, in order to get that work visa. so try learning something before spouting off.
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Old 09-16-2017, 05:57 PM
 
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LOL. Funny that's one of the few Obama EO's that 45 hasn't negated, huh?
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Old 09-16-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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First line of the OP's article.
The resort near Miami, which licenses Trump's name, is seeking permission to hire 10 housekeepers.
So it has nothing to do with Trump. (then again this is Buzzfeed we are talking about)


You know that Trump has thoroughly defeated you if this is all you can come up with these days.

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Old 09-16-2017, 05:59 PM
 
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LOL. Funny that's one of the few Obama EO's that 45 hasn't negated, huh?
why should he since congress was the body that passed the foreign worker act, thus it is a legitimate law.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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Americans are gullible.
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Old 09-16-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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Trump Beach Resort is owned by International Resorts Management Group - Trump licenses his name to IRMG but has nothing to do with ownership or management.
This is the case with a lot of his properties. Many people think he owns a lot of properties, when in fact he doesn't and makes money from the licensure of his brand (name.)
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:26 PM
 
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This is the case with a lot of his properties. Many people think he owns a lot of properties, when in fact he doesn't and makes money from the licensure of his brand (name.)
Not quite true.

I've made a career of 34 years in the hospitality industry. Fact is, Hilton doesn't own properties. They license them under management contracts.
Hyatt doesn't own any properties
Marriott doesn't own hotels
Ritz Carlton doesn't own any hotels.
When Doubletree Hotels bought and promptly sold all the Red Lion properties in the 80s, management asked why, as they were all very profitable. His exact words were, "Because we are a hotel management company and not a real estate company"
I was there.
Doubletree still has their name on all those properties although someone else owns them.

None of the major hoteliers own the properties. They are all owned by private investors and they license the Hilton name and Hilton manages the properties for a percentage of the gross.
It's how the industry works.
The property I still occasionally work at is owned by Metlife.

Which begs the question. When people say the Hilton San Antonio is using immigrants for their properties do people say "Oh no, it's not Hilton, it's ABC investment that is hiring those immigrants?"

No, the credit for the hotel's success goes to Hilton and the credit for it's actions goes to Hilton.
The owners just collect the profits and watch their real estate equity grow.
In this case, the credit for all actions at Trump branded properties goes to Trump. The guy with the 20 ft gold letters on the front.
You can't put your name on the front or marquee and deny association to the property, but I guess Trumpsters are a different breed. They can justify anything.
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Old 09-16-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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you seem to think it is as simple as saying "ok the next 15,000 get their temporary work visa", but that isnt the case. just like people who want to emigrate here, they have to go through background checks, among other things, in order to get that work visa. so try learning something before spouting off.
Ah, so extreme vetting for a few years?
And these people can't overstay their visas like everyone else does?

Note- comparing it with Obama means nothing...you must remember that most sane Americans are FOR both guest workers and paths to citizenship for immigrants.

We are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump and Trumpies and the additional lies about "Americans will do those jobs", etc. etc.

Get it?

I really doubt they can do extreme vetting for 10's of thousands of potential terrorists in a week or two. But, hey, they are white - right?
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Old 09-16-2017, 09:08 PM
 
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it is obvious that you have NEVER worked in a hotel or a resort. i can tell you from experience working seasonal positions is tough working one place then moving again to try and get another job, then moving again. i did it for fourteen years in three different national parks.

and training maids takes a fair amount of time, its not just here is a vacuum and her eis how you make beds, there is much more to it than that. every hotel property/chain has certain standards that must be maintained if those properties wish to remain part of that chain.

in general it takes two weeks to properly train employees for a variety of jobs in any hotel. even the one that runs soft serve machines.


and college kids DO work summer jobs, but their schedule does not cover the entire season. for instance the season at skyland lodge in shenandoah national park starts in early april, and runs through late november. most chools dont get out until late may or early june, and go back in session in late august or early september, so there are a number of months that are not covered.

so how about you get out and work a seasonal job in a national park for a full season, or two, start where i did low those many years ago, at a four star/four diamond resort called jenny lake lodge in grand teton national park, and then come back and tell me it isnt hard to train someone to do housekeeping, or being a server in the restaurant, or working the front desk, or the kitchen, or any of the other jobs there.

or how about you work in human resources in the parks, and see how tough ti is to get americans to work those jobs just for the season. its hard enough to get people to clean rooms year around.
So they only have to train Americans but don't have to train foreigners?
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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Ah, so extreme vetting for a few years?
And these people can't overstay their visas like everyone else does?

Note- comparing it with Obama means nothing...you must remember that most sane Americans are FOR both guest workers and paths to citizenship for immigrants.

We are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump and Trumpies and the additional lies about "Americans will do those jobs", etc. etc.

Get it?

I really doubt they can do extreme vetting for 10's of thousands of potential terrorists in a week or two. But, hey, they are white - right?
It's actually 90 days...per a change from Congress in December 2016.
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