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Old 07-29-2016, 02:45 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Originally Posted by Phyxius View Post
The woman was thrown to the ground. She got back up and continue walking towards the officer with the scissor in her hand. The shooting was justified.

I disagree. He had her on the ground, why didn't he cuff her and keep her there? He put her down, the let her get back up? WTF? I would hazard to say this women was more than a .08 BAC , so, sinceshe had been put down it shouldn't have had to escalate to a lethal force situation. Unless, of course, ....well.....never mind...
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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She isn't black. How is this newsworthy?
Lol yeah that this sholdnt be a news since she's not black.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: California
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the video doesn't show enough to prove anything but if you have a weapon and walk towards the police you are asking for trouble.
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Old 07-29-2016, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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You mean...."There is no thinking"! You are PROGRAMMED to shoot to kill and if you follow the program you just react that way without thought.....which leads to the misapplication of force.

Sorry, but you are not getting it. If shooting to wound is the solution to the situation, then shooting is not appropriate at all. Shooting to wound someone who is attacking you with deadly physical force is just asking to die. If you think cops should be trained to do that, then propose it your congressman and be the first to join the New Police Academy.


Edit: to clarify, shooting to wound is not appropriate because it can still result in death regardless of your intentions. Therefore, it is only permissible to shoot at all when deadly force is justified.

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Old 07-29-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Sorry, but you are not getting it. Shooting to wound someone who is attacking you with deadly physical force is asking to die. If you think cops should be trained to do that, then propose it your congressman and be the first to join the New Police Academy.
Some sense filters into the discussion...
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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Sounds to me like the Navaho woman was killed for carrying scissors at the wrong time and place. But she was just an Navaho and nobody cares what happens to them. Especially a really scared gun slinging police officer.
Race card fail. That woman REFUSED to obey the cop's demands and tried to go after him, it's called "suicide by cop".
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Cop standing behind woman with Scissors, Cop in front of woman with scissors, and everybody is acting like she couldn't be tazed or pepper sprayed even though the cop was tossing her around like a doll prior to shooting her. When a 20 something year old Blond woman gets killed this forum will erupt with outrage.
Police officers are trained to follow certain guidelines re the use of deadly force. If, in a given situation, deadly force is legally justified and the cop chooses to do otherwise and spares someone's life, that is really great. But in no way can he be personally faulted if he chooses to follow his training, or is unable in the heat of the moment to do anything else. They don't have to be Batman to avoid prosecution.


And, BTW, not every PO in the U.S. has a Taser strapped to his belt, and if he doesn't, its his Department's fault, not his.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Police officers are trained to follow certain guidelines re the use of deadly force. If, in a given situation, deadly force is legally justified and the cop chooses to do otherwise and spares someone's life, that is really great. But in no way can he be personally faulted if he chooses to follow his training, or is unable in the heat of the moment to do anything else. They don't have to be Batman to avoid prosecution.


And, BTW, not every PO in the U.S. has a Taser strapped to his belt, and if he doesn't, its his Department's fault, not his.
Truth overload. Thread about to pop!
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Too much booze, anger, petty crime, inadequate counseling and meds. She had a husband and cute kid, it's sad.

Yes it is. But none of that is the cop's fault. He can only be asked to account for what he may have done wrong.
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Police officers are trained to follow certain guidelines re the use of deadly force. If, in a given situation, deadly force is legally justified and the cop chooses to do otherwise and spares someone's life, that is really great. But in no way can he be personally faulted if he chooses to follow his training, or is unable in the heat of the moment to do anything else. They don't have to be Batman to avoid prosecution.


And, BTW, not every PO in the U.S. has a Taser strapped to his belt, and if he doesn't, its his Department's fault, not his.
How about don't be a cop if you can't take down a tiny woman with a pair of scissors while you have back up right behind you.
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