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View Poll Results: Do you think FDR was a good President?
Yes 84 59.57%
No 49 34.75%
Not sure 8 5.67%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-29-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Reactionary is right, BUT FDR avoided insurrection and revolution by instituting those programs. 1/3 of the population was out of work and most of the middle class and some of the emergent upper class lost their investments. They had worked many years to acquire wealth only to lose it because speculators and banks were buying stocks on credit. Now they had nothing because of dishonest people running a shell game on wall st. You cant have a third of the country without work or prospects to feed their families and expect things not to get violent. Look at the French revolution, the rise of communism in Russia, and the rise of Hitler in Germany. People do desperate things and follow crazy leaders when they got nothing. Thats why in 2008 the incoming democratic president and the outgoing republican president met to discuss options for bailing out the big banks and keeping the status quo in place. If 100 million americans went without work today there would be REAL problems.
Right you are. They say a picture is worth a thousand words:


See those men above? Up to 300,000 of them were at work for the CCC at any one time. The CCC paid these man $30 a month sending $25 of the 30 to their families. Roosevelt instituted this in 1933. He was unquestionably a great man.

History books gave Hoover a bum rap. Hoover actually rescued Belgium from starvation after WW 1. Hoover simply underestimated size of the problem.

Keynesian economics of government intervention in time of catastrophe works.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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People say FDR couldn't get us out of the Great Depression. This ignores that NOBODY thought of a way out of it. The Germans cheated by using deficient spending, but their economy was in no better shape that ours.

So, the biggest "blame" on FDR is that he couldn't perform miracles. And the right was no help in the fixing department.

We're talking about a man that some people claim allowed over two thousand Americans to die so he could get the US into a war in the Pacific so Hitler would decide to honor a treaty that didn't require him to declare war on the US anyway.

The level of paranoia is resounding. The level of unreasoning hate is no surprise at all.
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:55 PM
 
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As I recall reading, you could buy stock with 10% down.
That was a key causative factor to the meltdown. Everyday Joes were buying stock on margin. When stock prices collapsed, there were "margin calls" where those investors had to pay for the balance of their stock or lose everything. One of the big stock manipulators of the 1920s was Joseph P. Kennedy. Kennedy cashed in all of his stocks a few months before the crash. There's a story that Joe Kennedy realized the market was in trouble when he heard his shoe shine boy talking about investing in the market. It was ironic that FDR named Kennedy as the first chair of the SEC, since he was a stock manipulator, but he knew all of the scams, all of the tricks of the trade, so he was in that sense, a perfect choice.
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Old 07-29-2016, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Was FDR a good President?

Was FDR a good President?


Yes, indeed he was.

According to presidential historians, FDR is the #2 president behind Lincoln and ahead of Washington.

Of course, angry low info posters in this thread have opinions that differ. But their red-hot rants are amusing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States

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Old 07-29-2016, 04:54 PM
 
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Was FDR a good President?


Yes, indeed he was.

According to presidential historians, FDR is the #2 president behind Lincoln and ahead of Washington.

Of course, angry low info posters in this thread have opinions that differ. But their red-hot rants are amusing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States

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Old 07-29-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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An excellent summary of why FDR was the worst president ever, much less an even average president.


The Thought that Counts: Why FDR was America's Worst President
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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An excellent summary of why FDR was the worst president ever, much less an even average president.


The Thought that Counts: Why FDR was America's Worst President
A long-winded opinion from a minority of one.

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Old 07-29-2016, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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You're more than welcome to opinionate however you'd like.

The experts who do this for a living have rated FDR #2 among all presidents.

That answers the OP's question.


Collectivists sycophants are to be accorded blue ribbons and accepted as authorities on presidential excellence? No. Not happening.


Regardless of what they told you in school, FDR sucked Monster Hunter Nation


The "experts" be damned. Reality tells a different story. And it starts with redistribution of wealth, also known as THEFT, which was a central plank of FDR tyranny. And continues with the fact that the dishonest bastard wasn't even true to his personal vows. Cheating lying scheming tyrant who also happened to have a philosophy diametrically opposed to freedom and individual liberty. Bad character, bad philosophy, bad person, bad president. Consensus by thieving collectivist sycophantic "experts" notwithstanding.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Collectivists sycophants are to be accorded blue ribbons and accepted as authorities on presidential excellence? No. Not happening.


Regardless of what they told you in school, FDR sucked – Monster Hunter Nation


The "experts" be damned. Reality tells a different story. And it starts with redistribution of wealth, also known as THEFT, which was a central plank of FDR tyranny. And continues with the fact that the dishonest bastard wasn't even true to his personal vows. Cheating lying scheming tyrant who also happened to have a philosophy diametrically opposed to freedom and individual liberty. Bad character, bad philosophy, bad person, bad president.

Probably not the first time you've borrowed a wrong-headed opinion from someone else. FDR's record stands up to scrutiny, let alone his winning 4 elections by wide margins.
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Old 07-29-2016, 05:26 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Collectivists sycophants are to be accorded blue ribbons and accepted as authorities on presidential excellence? No. Not happening.


Regardless of what they told you in school, FDR sucked Monster Hunter Nation


The "experts" be damned. Reality tells a different story. And it starts with redistribution of wealth, also known as THEFT, which was a central plank of FDR tyranny. And continues with the fact that the dishonest bastard wasn't even true to his personal vows. Cheating lying scheming tyrant who also happened to have a philosophy diametrically opposed to freedom and individual liberty. Bad character, bad philosophy, bad person, bad president. Consensus by thieving collectivist sycophantic "experts" notwithstanding.
I can only imagine the horror you felt when Reagan did that.
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