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View Poll Results: Do you think FDR was a good President?
Yes 84 59.57%
No 49 34.75%
Not sure 8 5.67%
Voters: 141. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-02-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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There were no theories, just observation of reality. FDR advocated stealing money from one group for the unearned and undeserved benefit of other groups. That is precisely how Nazis work. Nazis simply added outright murder to the thieving. More direct approach, same exact morality. Taking what they want with the use of force. Using the police power of the state to bludgeon good people for the benefit of bad people who form political mobs. Just like the community organizing rabel rousing contemptible monstrosity that the mediocre dopes we call citizens put in the White House. Police power, steal from the good, give to the bad, the whole nine yards. That's what we've seen, and that is what has happened. Observation. Reality. And it will continue with the election of the Vapid Biddy.

It's all about envy, it's all about theft. It's all about mobbing to take what you are not good enough to earn. It's a bad philosophy and unfit for Americans, or really, any good and decent humans.
You can distort reality in any manner you wish. It will be useful for me when it comes to "you should see this one!" games.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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There were no theories, just observation of reality. FDR advocated stealing money from one group for the unearned and undeserved benefit of other groups. That is precisely how Nazis work. Nazis simply added outright murder to the thieving. More direct approach, same exact morality. Taking what they want with the use of force. Using the police power of the state to bludgeon good people for the benefit of bad people who form political mobs. Just like the community organizing rabel rousing contemptible monstrosity that the mediocre dopes we call citizens put in the White House. Police power, steal from the good, give to the bad, the whole nine yards. That's what we've seen, and that is what has happened. Observation. Reality. And it will continue with the election of the Vapid Biddy.

It's all about envy, it's all about theft. It's all about mobbing to take what you are not good enough to earn. It's a bad philosophy and unfit for Americans, or really, any good and decent humans.
You would sing a different tune if you were born disabled and needed care 24/7.
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:28 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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You would sing a different tune if you were born disabled and needed care 24/7.
Is this why families no longer care for the aging or disabled family? Is this why communities do so little for the poor? After all, that is "government's" job now.

Collectivism is only good when it does not take prisoners and slaves just as charity is only charity when it is voluntary, otherwise it is just theft, extortion, and slavery...
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Old 08-02-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Is this why families no longer care for the aging or disabled family? Is this why communities do so little for the poor? After all, that is "government's" job now.
In '09 I thought "This is the time they've been talking about, where big government gets out of the way and private enterprise steps up to the plate and makes everything better." Instead we got big money heading for the hills and devil take the hindmost. If you were counting on that fantasy scenario you are no doubt disappointed now.
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Collectivism is only good when it does not take prisoners and slaves just as charity is only charity when it is voluntary, otherwise it is just theft, extortion, and slavery...
Is FUD absolutely necessary for you guys to make any gains? Can you discuss this without the scare tactics? Or is that all you have?
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:24 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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In '09 I thought "This is the time they've been talking about, where big government gets out of the way and private enterprise steps up to the plate and makes everything better." Instead we got big money heading for the hills and devil take the hindmost. If you were counting on that fantasy scenario you are no doubt disappointed now.

Is FUD absolutely necessary for you guys to make any gains? Can you discuss this without the scare tactics? Or is that all you have?
I do not know what is so special about '09, sorry. Government's ONLY JUST role is as a retaliatory force against those who initiate force upon another. Read, defending natural human rights...

It is the responsibility of families and communities to help one another out voluntarily. That is moral and decent human behavior.

It is not the "right" of anyone to use government aggression to impose their personal will upon others. That is evil and immoral.

People DO help out one another in the absence of government aggression, violence, coercion, theft, and extortion. Believing otherwise is being blind to human nature...

How is one who only promotes maximizing individual human freedom and the non-aggression principle using "fear".

It is those who are against individual human freedom and pro government aggression upon the individual who's whole philosophy is based upon fear and coercion. Those who use and endorse government aggression, violence, and coercion to impose their personal will upon their neighbor who rely on instilling fear in their victims to get what they want.

Those who back the institution of aggression and coercion that we call "government" fear and preach fear of human freedom. A fear (and hatred) of their fellow man and human freedom.
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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You don't know what was special about '09? Bye.
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Old 08-02-2016, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ
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You would sing a different tune if you were born disabled and needed care 24/7.
If I needed care, I would take the only moral action open to me: ASKING for help.
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Old 08-02-2016, 02:09 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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If I needed care, I would take the only moral action open to me: ASKING for help.
What? You need more indoctrination by a public educational outlet

Why ask when you can use thug government to steal from your neighbor?
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