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Old 07-28-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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"Lord Acton writes to Bishop Creighton that the same moral standards should be applied to all men, political and religious leaders included, especially since “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” (1887)"

Lord Acton writes to Bishop Creighton that the same moral standards should be applied to all men, political and religious leaders included, especially since “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” (1887) - Online L

Is it possible to become a leader ...especially President and not be corrupt?
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I 100% agree with Acton that all humans should be held to the same exact moral standards. Funny enough, that's the #1 reason I post here...to point out that it's never legitimate for one person to have power over another.

People imagine that they can get together and grant special rights to a small group (political power/government) that no average person has.

It's considered wrong for the common person to take from others by force, commit mass murder, or enforce their will at gunpoint, but not if you're the government...nothing wrong with taxation, war, and arbitrary "law" (the only legitimate laws are against the initiation of force, theft, and fraud...and even those are redundant. You don't need to put someone in power to declare that those things are wrong.)

All people have the exact same rights. No exceptions.
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Exeter, NH
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If you are corrupt, you crave power--100% of the time.

If you crave power, you will fight to the death to get it.

If you don't crave power, then you probably want to follow someone with power (1% of us don't, but we're statistical noise). You certainly won't fight the corruption of those in power--you probably will turn your head to NOT SEE IT, even when it is placed in front of you.

Those who attain power are ALWAYS corrupt, and the more power they get, the more corrupt they are.

Until human nature changes, corrupt government will rule.
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: SGV
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I 100% agree with Acton that all humans should be held to the same exact moral standards. Funny enough, that's the #1 reason I post here...to point out that it's never legitimate for one person to have power over another.

People imagine that they can get together and grant special rights to a small group (political power/government) that no average person has.

It's considered wrong for the common person to take from others by force, commit mass murder, or enforce their will at gunpoint, but not if you're the government...nothing wrong with taxation, war, and arbitrary "law" (the only legitimate laws are against the initiation of force, theft, and fraud...and even those are redundant. You don't need to put someone in power to declare that those things are wrong.)

All people have the exact same rights. No exceptions.
Which is why the statist paradigm is illogical.

If we need to give a certain group of people more rights than the rest of us (government) because "bad people may do bad things" it stands to reason that bad people who want to do bad things will just join the government.

I have no clue how people don't realize this.
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Old 07-28-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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"Lord Acton writes to Bishop Creighton that the same moral standards should be applied to all men, political and religious leaders included, especially since “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” (1887)"

Lord Acton writes to Bishop Creighton that the same moral standards should be applied to all men, political and religious leaders included, especially since “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely” (1887) - Online L

Is it possible to become a leader ...especially President and not be corrupt?
Yes. As long as they are not a career politician.
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