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Old 07-30-2016, 09:27 PM
 
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What an idiotic thread.

1. HRC never criticized Muslims, or sought to tear up the Constitution and have Muslims banned from the U.S. Hence asking "what has HRC sacrificed" is basically moronic.

2. HRC is a woman and women weren't subject to the draft. Trump is a dude, was subject to draft, and dodged.

3. Criticizing a woman by making negative references to her appearance is basically the response of a misogynistic idiot.

 
Old 07-30-2016, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The left seems to ignore this.......watch when they respond on here its all about being good people and wanting a better life. Yet, when polled they all support Sharia Law as the law of American land.
They all? Nearly 2 billion people? Hyperbole much?

According to a poll in the UK of 300 people who identified as Muslim, nearly 50% felt that Muslims should have the right to live and resolve contract disputes in accordance to Sharia Law. And thus the sensational headline was created claiming a majority of Muslims want Sharia Law.

No doubt one could find at least as many Jews who feel Jews should be able to live and resolve contract disputes in accordance with Jewish law.

Regardless, the US is secular and is not going to recognize any religious law as superior.
 
Old 07-30-2016, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yet, Hillary, President Obama and President Bush have been the ones to make deals with the Saudis and Iran while sending this man's son into war. They sacrificed nothing and continue to make a lot of $$$$.
The US has been making deals with the Saudi's for 70+ years.

They are the glue that holds the majority of OPEC together in quoting and settling oil trade in USD, the petrodollar.

It's a toll paid to the US which creates a demand for the USD and thus the strength of the USD.

Saddam had the nerve to accept currencies other than USD and thus it was only a matter of time before a crisis could be manufactured that would allow the US to invade Iraq and take him out.

The rest is history.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Correct me if I'm wrong, guy who's already been kicked off the forum, but didn't Trump at one point mention having surveillance in Mosques in the US?

But a point I'm more interested in, this unknown person you're referring to who is at the very least anti-Trump said something and it's now being translated into a lie from the left. I guess my question is how? No name provided and he sounds more like he's just speaking for himself, and I want to know how this translates to an issue where this view represents or is coming from the entirely of people who are left of center, most of whom disagree with each other on quite a lot. And since this guy's been booted, I'd love an explanation from anyone of the many dwellers of this forum who have this same sort of sentiment.
He wanted to build a database on Muslims and surveillance of Mosques.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 06:14 AM
 
Location: NOVA
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They all? Nearly 2 billion people? Hyperbole much?

According to a poll in the UK of 300 people who identified as Muslim, nearly 50% felt that Muslims should have the right to live and resolve contract disputes in accordance to Sharia Law. And thus the sensational headline was created claiming a majority of Muslims want Sharia Law.
You've explained how most news articles are written today on both sides. Minimal research, even if it is polling data, find inflamatory theme that meets narrative, publish article.

If they did interview nearly all Muslims in the UK and 20% believed that Sharia law was the best legal system for only Muslims to follow while in the UK, that would still be newsworthy.

You cannot have a legal system that only applies to certain religions white having a separate legal system for others.

You can't allow" honor killings" and yet charge Christians for murder for the same circumstances.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 06:16 AM
 
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Here's the bottom line:


Trump had NOTHING to do with the loss of this soldier. Hillary DID; she voted FOR the war.


When idiotic Kahn brought Trump into his personal story, he lost all sympathy from clear thinking people.


Again, Kahn seemed to be blaming Trump for his personal sacrifice.


Sit down and shut up, Kahn. You are an idiot. Blame Hillary if you must place blame. But leave Trump out of it.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Here's the bottom line:


Trump had NOTHING to do with the loss of this soldier. Hillary DID; she voted FOR the war.


When idiotic Kahn brought Trump into his personal story, he lost all sympathy from clear thinking people.


Again, Kahn seemed to be blaming Trump for his personal sacrifice.


Sit down and shut up, Kahn. You are an idiot. Blame Hillary if you must place blame. But leave Trump out of it.
Trump brought all Muslims into the discussion, not the other way around. Kahn was just pointing out the absurd statements by Trump blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few. Maybe you missed the irony of someone that refused to serve our country criticizing a religion with members that served our country and gave their lives. Loved the part where he pulled out the constitution, Trump should read through it.


He wasn't blaming Trump for his sons death, wonder how you came up with that gem.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Trump brought all Muslims into the discussion, not the other way around. Kahn was just pointing out the absurd statements by Trump blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few. Maybe you missed the irony of someone that refused to serve our country criticizing a religion with members that served our country and gave their lives. Loved the part where he pulled out the constitution, Trump should read through it.


He wasn't blaming Trump for his sons death, wonder how you came up with that gem.
Trump never said there are no Muslims serving in the Armed Forces.

Trump called for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration. Completely legitimate action. Considering you can't separate the good from the bad ones.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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What an idiotic thread.
Yet you chose to post to the thread.

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1. HRC never criticized Muslims, or sought to tear up the Constitution and have Muslims banned from the U.S.
No, she just voted to allow the POTUS to use force that resulted in at least 495,000 Iraqis losing their lives.

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Hence asking "what has HRC sacrificed" is basically moronic.
The points are either going over your head or you are choosing to ignore them. One could argue, some might say callously, that it was only enlistee Humayun Khan who sacrificed anything (his life), and thus the discussion of what anyone else sacrificed is nonsensical. Also, as another poster noted, if Hillary and her cohorts hadn't voted for the AUMF, Humayun and many others couldn't have lost their lives.

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2. HRC is a woman and women weren't subject to the draft. Trump is a dude, was subject to draft, and dodged.
Wrong. Trump got a deferment. Not the same thing.

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3. Criticizing a woman by making negative references to her appearance is basically the response of a misogynistic idiot.
Do you need a safe space? I don't believe you are that sensitive, nor that unaware. I think you are just being disingenuous. Women make disparaging comments about a man's height, and many other comments about appearance. Would you call a woman making such comments a misandristic idiot? I doubt that you would. I'm a guy, but I also know that the conversations that women get into when men aren't around are often far more detailed than the conversations men often have.
 
Old 07-31-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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"Both of Joe Biden's two sons served," Were they drafted or did they volunteer?

Was the drat in force when Trump's sons were of draftable age?
Seriously? The draft was terminated in 1973. Biden's oldest son was all of four at that time. Both Biden sons volunteered for military service.
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