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Then, when it comes to comparing farmers of food crops to marijuana growers, when was the last time someone got killed for simply walking through a corn field? You might get a rear end full of rock salt but I haven't heard of crop farmers doing what more than a few marijuana growers do when it comes to that kind of thing.
3) If it's medicine, it should be tightly controlled. Exact dosages. No THC products that look like candy or snacks that could entice/confuse children. It should be sold in pill or liquid form like "real" drugs. And let's stop having doctors write prescriptions for anyone who walks in and says that they have insomnia or whatever. They're real doctors and they know that they're writing prescriptions for people who just want to get high in most cases. Just allow legal recreational weed, sell it at reasonable doses and cut out the shady people who are making millions off it. Better yet, just allow people to grow their own and cut out the middleman.
In AZ, physicians (M.D. and D.O.) make up only 20% of the doctors who prescribe marijuana. Most of the weed is prescribed by naturopaths, and homeopaths. The abuse is attributed to the latter group. Medical doctors are much more strictly supervised and there are real consequences to over-prescribing a controlled substance. As a result, most physicians do not want to prescribe it or be involved with it due to the potential for abuse among their patients.
The problem is when they legalized medical marijuana in our state, they did not limit prescribing privileges to physicians. Almost anything these days can count as "doctor"(naturopath, homeopath, podiatrist, chiropractor, dentist, nurse pracs with PhD) and so people who have not undergone the same rigors of medical education and training as physicians are being allowed to prescribe it. And for many of those providers, they almost rely upon medical marijuana to stay in business. So of course, they prescribe it like candy to anyone who wants it. It's pretty much the same thing as recreational marijuana except you have to jump through one additional hoop.
Medical marijuana precribing privileges should be limited to board certified physicians. And if you wanted to be more strict, you could even limit it to board certified pain medicine specialists, oncologists and ophthalmologists. That is the only way it will be prescribed responsibly and limited to real patients who need it.
Hey Nepenthe, I've found this article to hit the nail on the head when it comes to cannabis and my relationship of 14 years (married 10). It's been nothing but good times and we have the 2 and a half year old trophy to prove it lol. (Sativa + sex = mind blown)
Actually being stoned is much much safer than alcohol. From someone who is literally on the front line of the publics bad choices, alcohol is far...far..............far worse than cannabis.
I'd much rather someone drink around me than smoke that sh-- around me. I can smell it from miles away and the smell alone can at best give me a headache at worst nausea. You might as well be smoking dog crap. As long as the guy isn't drunk and even then if it was a guy I was into I would just be turned off sexually. It wouldn't give me any physical symptoms.
I know of a lot of people who have drank alcohol and as long as they are responsible with it it hasn't effected their mental capabilities. Weed smokers seem to be far more messed up. A lot of people will say they need weed to not be an ahole. No one says that about drinking.
Yes it is still a drug so I'd never drink it but I mean I even try to drink caffeinated soda when I can. People who are more "normal" would probably be okay.
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Omg...marijuana is now good for you.....
Surprise surprise Opie...I never knew 400 plus chemicals in pot..all those chemicals .. carcinogenic... Were good for us
Let me ask you this....have you tried marijuana derivatives?
Hash...honey oil...
Have you eaten it..smoked it ..perhaps out of a gas mask bong ..vaped it... All of the above?
Can you provide us a list of chemicals found in marijuana...over and above introduced chemicals like pesticides hormones ..you know the list...oh ..and the mold and other yum good stuff
Laughing...sure you are... Will we pay for your health issues because of drug addiction and use
We probably already are...
Now..as to some of the other suppositions
No one lives in a vacuum..you use drugs you affect others by default.. the extent is debatable.. but the fact is if you use drugs you short circuit your abilities
Next you be telling us how smarter people are as a potheads
No wonder regular folks don't care about discoursing with potheads...
They say it's because it's a herb but there are so many other herbs you could take.
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I get the impression that "not me officer" is one of those cops that is everyone's worst nightmare.
I don't like cops as much as the next victim of a crime and I don't like to judge people who use drugs like the OP is doing so he wouldn't be a person I'd have positive feelings for IRL but worst nightmare is a bit of a stretch. I don't take any drugs so this doesn't affect me that much. But I always say I'm not part of this "everyone" that people speak of.
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You do realize everything is a chemical right? Your brain is made up of chemicals, is your brain also bad? I might actually think so with the way you post on here, but generally brains don't hurt people.
The keyboard you typed your nonsense on is also made up of chemicals. The air you breathe is made up of chemicals. A celery stick is made up of chemicals. Is an oak tree dangerous for you? I mean it's also made up of chemicals and is a plant like marijuana.
My brain is bad though. It gets me into a lot of trouble with its complexities and overthinking No but seriously just because a brain has chemicals doesn't mean one should ingest more chemicals. For example we are made up of a huge percentage of water but does that mean we should go chug a gallon of water and water tends to be safer than anything else so it's too easy to have too many chemicals. Like I said you all can smoke what you want more power to you as long as no one smokes it around me or I'm not dating them. But do not try to justify that weed should be considered to have health benefits just because there are chemicals all around us. In fact that's part of the problem. There's flouride in the city water. There's high fructose corn syrup in our foods. If we're already ingesting chemicals in things we need then why would it be safe to ingest a chemical that we didn't need? I'm all for herbs just not marijuana.
Nope but white hickory trees are bad for me as I'm allergic to them. Except an oak tree does not have anything but the bark and the leaves.
But you don't smoke your keyboard do you?
Unless the air is polluted it's completely different from chemicals in Mary Jay.
Celery is water based. It is strictly plant material. Sometimes it might have pesticides but it usually has minimal amounts.
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Where we have LOTS of marijuana related robberies and burglaries and a nice selection of crime DIRECTLY related to marijuana.. and all the other drugs as well. How about murder?.. we've had some of those for pot... how about burning down entire neighborhoods of thousands of acres of land.. we've had a number of those as well.. Ive posted up legit stories many times.. but they are all swept away by the "its just a plant" crowd.
As much as I think MJ is bad for one's brain this is ridiculous. People commit crimes because they are aholes not because they are stoned so it is not the drug it is the person. With the exception of drunk driving, drug users generally only hurt themselves.
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Pot behavior is horrible...
Potheads..smell like skunk
Are unmotivated
Get injured more
Steal from their employers more... If they have a job
Use more sick time
Why should we as a society support dysfunctional behavior?
Because except for your last two examples, this generally does not affect someone who doesn't smoke it. As for your last two examples a lot of people steal and a lot of people take sick time/vacation.
I may be debating just as you but I actually don't know if I believe in outlawing it. It just wastes our tax dollars to jail all those people. You are fighting the wrong cause entirely. If you want a war on drugs let's fight prescription medication or drunk driving because that does effect other people.
I'd much rather someone drink around me than smoke that sh-- around me. I can smell it from miles away and the smell alone can at best give me a headache at worst nausea. You might as well be smoking dog crap. As long as the guy isn't drunk and even then if it was a guy I was into I would just be turned off sexually. It wouldn't give me any physical symptoms.
I know of a lot of people who have drank alcohol and as long as they are responsible with it it hasn't effected their mental capabilities. Weed smokers seem to be far more messed up. A lot of people will say they need weed to not be an ahole. No one says that about drinking.
Yes it is still a drug so I'd never drink it but I mean I even try to drink caffeinated soda when I can. People who are more "normal" would probably be okayle.
No one is talking about the smell. Most people act responsible on both alkeehol and pot. The violent idiot drunk causes far..........far...................FAR more problems than pot.
Ask any patrol officer and they will tell you alcohol causes the vast majority of problems. Domestic violence, fights, assaults, DUI, etc
No one is talking about the smell. Most people act responsible on both alkeehol and pot. The violent idiot drunk causes far..........far...................FAR more problems than pot.
Ask any patrol officer and they will tell you alcohol causes the vast majority of problems. Domestic violence, fights, assaults, DUI, etc
That may be but even a responsible pot smoker can easily get addicted to that stuff. A lot of people are casual drinkers but I have yet to see a casual smoker. If anything someone might try it once and then never do it again but if they try it once and like it it can get addicting. I think in the short term drinking can be more dangerous if you do too much of it but in the long term smoking weed would be more harmful to the smoker's health because of that addiction. They aren't more likely to be more violent than alcoholics because again it depends on the person but they are far more likely to damage their cognition.
You're right no one is talking about the smell but I was because it's safer for someone who has high senses like me to be around someone drinking a beer than someone smoking. I know I'm in the minority but just saying weed smokers should be more considerate as to when they smoke it. Also something that smells that bad must smell that bad for a reason. The only safe thing I can think of that smells that bad is eggs and as a person with high senses this is saying a lot.
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Although the autopsy revealed no human flesh in Eugene's stomach, a number of undigested pills were discovered that have not been identified. Although police sources had speculated that the street drug "bath salts" might have been involved, preliminary toxicology reports were positive only for the presence of cannabis.
Authorities have not necessarily found the negative results conclusive; Broward Sheriff Al Lamberti has expressed a belief that some new drug not yet tested for played a role; nationally noted toxicologist Barry Logan said Eugene's behavior was consistent with "bath salts" and that toxicologists "are not testing for everything that may be out there"; and the director of toxicology at the University of Florida, Dr. Bruce Goldberger, said, "We are not incompetent...We have the tools, we have the sophistication and know-how. But the field is evolving so rapidly it is hard for us to keep track. It's almost as if it is a race we can never win."
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No but seriously just because a brain has chemicals doesn't mean one should ingest more chemicals. For example we are made up of a huge percentage of water but does that mean we should go chug a gallon of water and water tends to be safer than anything else so it's too easy to have too many chemicals. Like I said you all can smoke what you want more power to you as long as no one smokes it around me or I'm not dating them. But do not try to justify that weed should be considered to have health benefits just because there are chemicals all around us. In fact that's part of the problem. There's flouride in the city water. There's high fructose corn syrup in our foods. If we're already ingesting chemicals in things we need then why would it be safe to ingest a chemical that we didn't need? I'm all for herbs just not marijuana.
