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Old 08-07-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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So the latest Trump attack ad highlights Trump making ties in China, but doesn't mention all the people Trump has employed in the US. So does it make sense for someone that has never produced a job to attack someone that produced thousands simply because PART of their business involved making things overseas?

Is making things overseas even an issue if the system is set up for overseas manufacturing being a competitive advantage? Why should a company be criticized for playing the game in a way that maximizes profit? Is that sorta like criticizing a wealthy person for legally using the tax system to pay the least amount possible?
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Hillary lives off the charity of others, she's too busy checking her bank account and those of her new mentor, Warren Buffet to be concerned with creating a job let along ever work at one not paid for by taxpayers or donations.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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nafta created the animal the allows trump to buy his clothes from china.... who is nafta??
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Can she? Of course, liberals are big on "do as I say, not as I do". In their mind she doesn't have to actually have accomplishments to complain about someone else.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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It's sorta like a burger flipper attacking an ER surgeon that had 50 people die under his care and disregarding that he saved 5,000 lives...well how many lives did burger flipper save?
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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Consumers create jobs, not billionaires.

Trump has never created a job in his life except for the times when HE'S been the consumer.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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So the latest Trump attack ad highlights Trump making ties in China, but doesn't mention all the people Trump has employed in the US. So does it make sense for someone that has never produced a job to attack someone that produced thousands simply because PART of their business involved making things overseas?

Is making things overseas even an issue if the system is set up for overseas manufacturing being a competitive advantage? Why should a company be criticized for playing the game in a way that maximizes profit? Is that sorta like criticizing a wealthy person for legally using the tax system to pay the least amount possible?

What won't Hillary do or say? Nothing is off the table or too far for her. When the NYT calls her out for blatantly lying... just how bad does she have to be?
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Can she? Of course, liberals are big on "do as I say, not as I do". In their mind she doesn't have to actually have accomplishments to complain about someone else.
The definition of an establishment politician. They are all garbage lately, however HRC is the cream of the crop.

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Consumers create jobs, not billionaires.

Trump has never created a job in his life except for the times when HE'S been the consumer.


Everyone is a consumer Captain Obvious. If he consumes labor (construction, materials, machinery) then he is creating jobs through his consumption. Therefore, we all create jobs; Billionaires CREATE MORE JOBS simple because they consume so much more than anyone else
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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So the latest Trump attack ad highlights Trump making ties in China, but doesn't mention all the people Trump has employed in the US. So does it make sense for someone that has never produced a job to attack someone that produced thousands simply because PART of their business involved making things overseas?

Is making things overseas even an issue if the system is set up for overseas manufacturing being a competitive advantage? Why should a company be criticized for playing the game in a way that maximizes profit? Is that sorta like criticizing a wealthy person for legally using the tax system to pay the least amount possible?

What you are trying to discuss here is hypocrisy. Trump has goods made by Chinese workers while he's full of talk about making more jobs for Americans.

American jobs has been a hot topic ever since 2009. That's a long time.
But I don't see any Chinese made goods gathering dust on the shelves anywhere. So what does that make we citizens, when we holler about another's hypocrisy while ignoring their own?

Palin and simple. If you want more American jobs, you have to buy more American-made goods.

Even when they are harder to find and cost more, or don't have a wide selection. And you have to keep buying them, as many as you can. Every month, every year. For decades to come.

That's the only way to re-grow once-giant industries. Or you can cry about no American jobs and be a hypocrite.

Most of us seem to be more willing to be a hypocrite than to do the harder things. We will all know how serious we actually are about American jobs when we see all the fabric mills open back up and start hiring overtime.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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What you are trying to discuss here is hypocrisy. Trump has goods made by Chinese workers while he's full of talk about making more jobs for Americans.
And it's NOT hypocrisy. Having something made in China and wanting more American jobs are not mutually exclusive. A business owners #1 priority is profits - if the system allows for offshoring to be more profitable, that's what a business should do.

Regardless, the attack ad insinuates that Trump isn't good for the economy because he produces things overseas. It ignores everyone he's employed in the US. It doesn't mention that Hillary has produced no jobs.
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Old 08-07-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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hillary shou.d not criticize trump for ties to china, since she herself has ties to china.
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