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Old 08-09-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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Because we are confused why liberals don't apply their own standards universally.

If diversity is good for schools and businesses, why not for Olympic teams?

Diversity is good for Olympic teams.

As stated earlier, our entire team is extremely diverse, including our swimmers.

I think the issue with you is that you only define diversity in regards to skin color. Diversity includes a multitude of factors including age, gender, physical ability, appearance, family circumstance, income, etc.

Taken into consideration, our male swim team is diverse based on a majority of the above including having genetic diversity.

All of the side conversations in regards to Affirmative Action and "merit" or the size of people's legs, ultimately are not a huge factor on the team and the team is diverse due to having a wide range of differences amongst team members in the factors stated above.

Our entire team is extremely diverse so your contention that it is not, is actually false.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Diversity is good for Olympic teams.

As stated earlier, our entire team is extremely diverse, including our swimmers.

I think the issue with you is that you only define diversity in regards to skin color. Diversity includes a multitude of factors including age, gender, physical ability, appearance, family circumstance, income, etc.

Taken into consideration, our male swim team is diverse based on a majority of the above including having genetic diversity.

All of the side conversations in regards to Affirmative Action and "merit" or the size of people's legs, ultimately are not a huge factor on the team and the team is diverse due to having a wide range of differences amongst team members in the factors stated above.

Our entire team is extremely diverse so your contention that it is not, is actually false.
How about the folks that swim the fastest make the team.

Can we agree on that?
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Emergent diversity that arises naturally as a result of the best team members coming from a diverse pool of candidates is great. Artificial diversity that is enforced because you're trying to ensure some sort of arbitrary diversity goal might not be so great.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Emergent diversity that arises naturally as a result of the best team members coming from a diverse pool of candidates is great. Artificial diversity that is enforced because you're trying to ensure some sort of arbitrary diversity goal might not be so great.
Just look at some of the police or fire depts if you want to see forced diversity. LOL is all I can say.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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Emergent diversity that arises naturally as a result of the best team members coming from a diverse pool of candidates is great. Artificial diversity that is enforced because you're trying to ensure some sort of arbitrary diversity goal might not be so great.
Let me introduce you to Affirmative Action.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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What are you talking about?

Anthony Ervin is the oldest member of the swim team. He is part Jewish, Native America, and black American so he is diverse in an of himself. I also bet that all of the other swimmers have a lot of ethnic diversity in their genes.

There are also teenage, 20 something, and 30 something year old swimmer. There is lots of age diversity on our team this year.

The physical attributes of the swimmers themselves - we have blondes and brunettes and long hair and short haired, etc., swimmers so there is diversity in appearance.

Quit trying to start mess where there is none.

Go USA !!
They don't have any transgendered swimmers, no amputees, no midgets, no fat people, I could go on, but these people are obviously nothing but a bunch of bigots.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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Maybe certain cultures are less interested in swimming professionally.

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I've spent a good amount of time in Hawaii and the Virgin Islands and can vouch for the ability of back people to swim just as well if not better than anyone of other color. It's just a shame that more blacks don't get an opportunity to learn. I'm glad there are programs out there trying to change that. As a surfer and part-turtle (I'm Hawaiian) I feel swimming is a vital life skill that is as important to learn as our ABC's.
Yes! There are some amazing swimmers in the Caribbean, especially those guys who spearfish. They move like fish themselves.

Any babies of mine will be learning right in the ocean...
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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...no fat people...
Maybe the team needs to check their thin privilege.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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How about the folks that swim the fastest make the team.

Can we agree on that?
We can agree that the swimmers who swim the fastest during these sanctioned competitions make the team.

Many times the underdog swimmers do pretty well or the top swimmers lose during competition to someone even though before that heat, they had the fastest times in the world.

People can psych themselves out even if they have the fastest times and get nervous and not make a team. It has happened.

Also, not sure what that has to do with diversity.

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They don't have any transgendered swimmers, no amputees, no midgets, no fat people, I could go on, but these people are obviously nothing but a bunch of bigots.
So according to you only the above characteristics are indicative of diversity???

Is that what you are saying? That if people don't fall into your view of what is "diverse" then they are bigots....?

Odd...
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I've spent a good amount of time in Hawaii and the Virgin Islands and can vouch for the ability of back people to swim just as well if not better than anyone of other color. It's just a shame that more blacks don't get an opportunity to learn. I'm glad there are programs out there trying to change that. As a surfer and part-turtle (I'm Hawaiian) I feel swimming is a vital life skill that is as important to learn as our ABC's.

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Maybe certain cultures are less interested in swimming professionally.



Yes! There are some amazing swimmers in the Caribbean, especially those guys who spearfish. They move like fish themselves.

Any babies of mine will be learning right in the ocean...
For real. I'm a very strong swimmer myself, but last October we were on St. Thomas doing some bodysurfing in Lindbergh Bay and I was humbled mightily by the locals out there. Access to water is vital to learning and progressing as a swimmer and unfortunately, inner cities here in the U.S. just don't have enough access to clean and safe pools and lessons. It's a sad fact that too often leads to tragedy.
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