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Old 08-14-2016, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Regulations have made the right to open a business extremely difficult. My son is launching a small business and the regulations make it expensive, difficult, and takes time. I'm not against the concept of reasonable regulations but it seems more difficult than necessary.

The biggest problem is the tax bite and debt government is hammering with. It's ridiculous that the pay and benefits of government workers doubles that of private....this has taken money from the private sector which produces something and transfers it to the public sector which doesn't.
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Regulations have made the right to open a business extremely difficult. My son is launching a small business and the regulations make it expensive, difficult, and takes time. I'm not against the concept of reasonable regulations but it seems more difficult than necessary.

The biggest problem is the tax bite and debt government is hammering with. It's ridiculous that the pay and benefits of government workers doubles that of private....this has taken money from the private sector which produces something and transfers it to the public sector which doesn't.


Government always harps they need more money, when the meat gets to the bone, government is way overstaffed, just to give people jobs.
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:48 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Are you familiar with the words "consent" and "contract"?
Yes indeed I am!

Here's an idea ... don't consent to work for someone without a contract!
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:44 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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I've been hearing a constant refrain in these forums that goes like this "We've lost so many of our rights and freedoms" and "We've had our freedoms and rights taken from us."
This is usually followed by slogans like "Make America Great Again"

I'd appreciate someone telling me when America was Greater/better than now...please be specific as to how it was better and why.

I've started this thread to explore just what "rights" and "freedoms" people feel that we have lost or had taken away from us.

Terms-I guess a freedom can be a very subjective thing-so the field is wide open.

Rights-I'm using the definition a Right is something that is codified by law..and taken away by law.

My take..about the only Right that I can think of that has been taken is the right to freely move between Canada and Mexico without a passport.

Freedom of speech and freedom of information have been greatly increased by the internet..although like anything else, the internet requires a lot of discretion as to what to believe or not. It certainly gives a forum to people whose voices would never have been heard. So..a Freedom gained and a right enhanced.

In fact, as I think of it..we have many more Rights than in the past. Many see this as the problem...The right to have a legal and safe abortion...the right not to be discriminated against on the basis of gender orientation, to name a couple.
Well, life liberty a x pursuit of happiness, are all subject to government approval. Step outside federal guidelines, attached , however, and those "right" are subject for review. Must ask Randy Weaver how that works. Or maybe the Branch Davjdians. Amongst others.
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:15 PM
 
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Where does it require that?

It's in the Fifth Amendment, the part that's not well-understood.

It's called the Takings Clause.


The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution includes a provision known as the Takings Clause, which states that "private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."
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Old 08-15-2016, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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You said this...



I'm just saying that your freedom, liberty, whatever you'd like to call it is never really impinged upon when you enter a contractual agreement with consent.

Sure, it's not pleasant to have tenets in an agreement you may not like but the actual freedom to choose whether or not to accept it is all that matters in a world where we are so often left with no choice.

Like you said, you knew unpleasantries would follow your agreement but willing to accept them free from duress is a far cry from being forced at gunpoint to do as your told. That's all.
You ALWAYS have a choice in the United States, No Recess. I know that for a fact. I have seen what no choices really looks like.

If you are too thick to realize you have choices, that's your problem, not mine, nor anyone else's.

If your life has unpleasantries, you have the ability to remedy them. No one is forcing you at gunpoint to do anything. No damn thing at all.

So quit being a drama queen, take charge of your life, and start taking care of your own business. Don't expect anyone else to do it for you.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Oy vey.

OY VEY!!!

Do you have any idea how childish, fatuous, and nonsensical that claim is?

It insults the very Constitution of the United States of America!

Have you ever read the Constitution? Do you understand the Rule of Law?

People - voters - elect the President of the US!

Some states have more people than other states ... that is why populous states get more electoral college votes than others.

"Land" can not and does not elect a president. Acres of farmland can not vote.

Trees and bushes can not vote.

Counties and cities can not vote ... only the voters in those places can vote.

I think any person with a education past the 4th Grade can understand this.

More people voted for Obama than Romney ... can you comprehend that little fact???

Sheesh!!!
Judging by the latest polls, land and trees would do a much better job determining elections. And the fact 2 lousy candidates are allowed to spend millions to buy our votes should raise huge red flags. The process is corrupted, and voters are for the most part apathetic and uniformed.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I've been hearing a constant refrain in these forums that goes like this "We've lost so many of our rights and freedoms" and "We've had our freedoms and rights taken from us."
This is usually followed by slogans like "Make America Great Again"

I'd appreciate someone telling me when America was Greater/better than now...please be specific as to how it was better and why.

I've started this thread to explore just what "rights" and "freedoms" people feel that we have lost or had taken away from us.

Terms-I guess a freedom can be a very subjective thing-so the field is wide open.

Rights-I'm using the definition a Right is something that is codified by law..and taken away by law.

My take..about the only Right that I can think of that has been taken is the right to freely move between Canada and Mexico without a passport.

Freedom of speech and freedom of information have been greatly increased by the internet..although like anything else, the internet requires a lot of discretion as to what to believe or not. It certainly gives a forum to people whose voices would never have been heard. So..a Freedom gained and a right enhanced.

In fact, as I think of it..we have many more Rights than in the past. Many see this as the problem...The right to have a legal and safe abortion...the right not to be discriminated against on the basis of gender orientation, to name a couple.
How can one loose something, they never had ... ?
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Judging by the latest polls, land and trees would do a much better job determining elections. And the fact 2 lousy candidates are allowed to spend millions to buy our votes should raise huge red flags. The process is corrupted, and voters are for the most part apathetic and uniformed.

Trump has only spent 1/200th of what Hillary has spent, from the DNC & Clinton Foundations accounts.

The Media has given Donald 3 Billion worth in free air time. He didn't spend a dime on.
If only Ron Paul had received that much free publicity???
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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When we start taxing properties and income, not much freedom left after that.
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