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Old 08-17-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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No. Never. Government should never "prop up" businesses. Government should never subsidize business or products. Failing businesses should be allowed to fail.
But they did. To the tune of trillions of dollars. We agree it should not have happened it would seem (correct me if I'm wrong). But it did. Since it did why shouldn't everyone be able to benefit from that in a more equitable way? Why should the vast majority of that go to only the top few?
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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Almost every product I buy today has much better quality than products 30 years ago and a big portion of those products are made outside the USA. You should quit buying lousy products.

I have a German automobile that's 25 years old and still running fine. I have a refrigerator that's been in my garage for 20 years and it's still going fine. I have a shop full of tools that are very high quality; some are made in the USA, some are not including some DeWalt drills that are made in China.

Quality products are out there. You should look harder.
Sorry, but I disagree
You need to open your eyes then and look at the complaints from people paying full price for LQ Crap from China. It is almost a catch phrase these days.

What happened to the Life Time Warranties on many products we had when they were made in the USA?
They can't stand by their product can they?
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Road King?

What do you think should be done about the Human Rights Abuses in countries like China?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/wo...anted=all&_r=0


China’s Great Uprooting: Moving 250 Million Into Cities

This is a massive human rights abuse where millions of Chinese had their farm lands bull dozed and forced to go work in the cities to make widgets.
Just FYI, I spent 3 weeks in China two months ago and saw their pitiful living conditions firsthand.

What should be done? The first step would be freedom. Freedom to own land. Freedom to choose what their kids will study in school. Freedom to choose a school for their kids.

Central Planning is the biggest disaster mankind has ever experienced. It's failed everywhere including Germany, Russia, China, North Korea and Venezuela.

Central Planning (Big Government controlling everything or socialism) must be eliminated before the people in China will advance.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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Any CEO that isn't focused on profits should be fired. He works for the shareholders, not the public. If the CEO of an automobile company finds a way to reduce costs and/or improve his product, he will be more competitive in the market. That brings in sales and profits and jobs and happy customers.

Maybe you should start a business and focus on something other than profit.
And Again, if their only concern is the shareholders then they have ABSOLUTELY NO business being anywhere near our government

I will be voting to get them out of the government
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:11 PM
 
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They strive to provide the best product at their chosen price point. That benefits consumers. But that's not an obligation. It's a business strategy.
Sort of like Purchasing Politicians and creating Trade Pacts with Communist Countries is a business strategy
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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I wouldn't jail them, because what they did was legal, and still is legal..
No it wasn't. Lloyd Blankfein clearly committed perjury.

Senate Probe: Goldman Sachs Shafted Clients, Lied to Us

Mozilo clearly ran afoul of Sarbanes/Oxley and while the government got a slap on the wrist fine out of him the law was passed so there would be prison time.

What is Sarbanes-Oxley Supposed to do?

Timothy Geithner admitted laws were broken but that he would not seek prosecutions because it might be bad for the markets. How I wish someone would have decked him when he said this. Sadly, many, many, many who complain voted to re-elect the administration that oversaw this.

JPMorgan admitted laws were broken.

Finally, JPMorgan Admits The Bank Broke The Law

Who went to prison?
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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You can pay above average wages and still make a profit. But your workers will have more to spend and an incentive not to go somewhere else.


Take a look at Ford's $5 a day wage. He almost doubled the average wage paid for that class of work.
That's true and that is a good business model for some companies. Ford did it to get better quality workers.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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I'll let you try to convince your middle class friends that they should pay more for their products. Will that "punish the wealthy?"
That part will not be a problem at all sir when they do not have the money to pay for the products to begin with. Eventually, your Get Rich Globalist Plans will run out of other peoples money.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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The majority of people though in this country in order to have their say, march on the streets with placards or donate 10 dollars if they have it to a candidate.

That is the reality

On the other hand, if you are part of a Big Banking Firm or a Corporation with Deep Pockets, you can just march right into Capitol Hill and Demand! what you want


So, why can't I march right into a politicians office and demand what I want???
You should. We all should. When stopped we should break things.

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The Warning: Brooksley Born's Battle With Alan Greenspan, Robert Rubin And Larry Summers - Business Insider

[He says he has] 13 bankers in Larry Summers office who informed him of this. Stop, right away. No more.'"


Should all citizens be able to walk right in DC and Tell Politicians what to do?
We should have tarred and feathered Greenspan.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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Almost every product I buy today has much better quality than products 30 years ago and a big portion of those products are made outside the USA. You should quit buying lousy products.
Is that why 30 years ago refrigerators had 5 year warranties and now have 6 month warranties?
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