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#1 Large government eating too much income up and screwing everything up.
#2 lack of shame and desire to work hard.
There are millions of Americans working in the construction industry along side illegals getting paid half of what they did 20 years ago.
I double dare you to go up to a construction worker and tell them they are not working hard.
Most of the people on hand outs WORK for a living
The problem in this country is elitists and greedy scoundrels that will sell this country out for a fatter wallet.
They need to be thrown out of this country.
No, not shut down, not sent to prison, but thrown out of this country.
I'll let you try to convince your middle class friends that they should pay more for their products. Will that "punish the wealthy?"
I do not care one bit about punishing the wealthy. Controlling where growth happens in the economy? That is what matters. Concentrate the growth on the top end and everyone is poorer. Well 99 out of 100 are poorer.
There are millions of Americans working in the construction industry along side illegals getting paid half of what they did 20 years ago.
I double dare you to go up to a construction worker and tell them they are not working hard.
Most of the people on hand outs WORK for a living
The problem in this country is elitists and greedy scoundrels that will sell this country out for a fatter wallet.
They need to be thrown out of this country.
No, not shut down, not sent to prison, but thrown out of this country.
That is my #1, failure of a large government doing what serves them and not you.
That happens because general contractors remove future competition because illegals after 7 years can't go out and get a liscenced to compete later against the boss.
Also could be IRS issues depending on payments and lack of taxation.
What happens when all US companies move operations to the US and prices double? Where will middle class America buy clothes at double the price? How will moms afford to buy blue jeans at $100 rather than $40?
Social programs will end by increasing jobs and charity, so millions of people will have MORE money to buy my products.
Again, you did not answer my question. I would be more than happy to address yours as soon as you address questions concerning propositions you made.
Ending social programs is your position.
What happens when millions no longer have the means to buy your product?
It's a simple concept. Consumers benefit when goods are made at the most cost effective location.
The job of a CEO is to make profits for his shareholders. Usually, that means lowering costs to be competitive which increases sales and profits. Sometimes that means moving operations to a lower cost area. Other times it means outsourcing to another company that can provide that service cheaper and/or better.
As I said, I don't know of any reports of consumers celebrating lower prices on goods since manufacturing moved overseas. Have you seen any such stories on the web?
There are some "electronic products" that are good buys but when it comes to tools or heavy duty gear, it is crap!
Sorry, but you can't fool me on this topic. I've been buying tools for a few decades and the ones they sell today are way better than they used to be. I have a shop full of hand and power tools.
Here are some very good tool brands that are either all or mostly made in China, Mexico, Taiwan or other low cost countries;
DeWalt
Jet
Delta
Milwaukee
Mikita
Porter-Cable
Kobalt
and many many more.
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What would happen if they made the Iphone in America?
Income equality is an imaginary socialist talking point.
the biggest gap of inequality is the salaries, perks and opportunities provided the legislative class by uninformed, self serving, one issue, myopic voters.
The money pool is finite. If you EARN or SAVE enough to make to live comfortably you don't need another million some CEO was granted by a board of directors.
The big businesses most often given a pass are colleges and universities, IRS compounding interest on theoretical money owed, infinite taxes being increased, a complictaed tax code created and championed for years by the former head Democrat Charlie rangel and company. Obama promised skyrocketing energy prices under his plan...and people voted for him. Clinton and nafta and legislation re banks and feds calling GWB racists because he questioned th solvency of Freddie and fannie...just before the crash..which further sapped the accounts of taxpayers. Obama with regulations passed by bypassing people's representatives that crush any attempt at strating a small business...the IRS waitiing for a rookie mistake to destroy the person financially for an unintentional mistake. Each family will save 2,500 dollars if obama care is passed. Cost of obamacare and medical coverage out of reach for the majority of the country.
what's left to live on?
The inequality is not in the pay, it is in the system, the politicians feeding off the taxpayers being the cause.
II is not a socialist problem. It's something that hurts one of the very foundations of the economy -- cycling of money.
Imagine a two person economy with $100 between them. A has $75, B has $25. A only needs $60 for his lifestyle, and stashes the $15 leftover in tax-shelters. B splits his money $22/$3 between spending & saving. Out of the original $100, only $82 is coming back into the economy for spending.
What happens if that split is now $85 for A, $15 for B? A still has a $60 lifestyle, so now it's $25 into tax shelters. B has to cut back, so now his split is $13/$2. Now, out of the original $100, only $73 is being circulated.
Would you argue that an economy spending $73 is doing better than it was when it was spending $82?
And that's not even going into the tax implications of the change, or the economic opportunities lost.
As I said, I don't know of any reports of consumers celebrating lower prices on goods since manufacturing moved overseas. Have you seen any such stories on the web?
Yes.
I celebrate the price of many products such as tools, televisions and computers. They are way better today and way more reliable and way cheaper.
II is not a socialist problem. It's something that hurts one of the very foundations of the economy -- cycling of money.
Imagine a two person economy with $100 between them. A has $75, B has $25. A only needs $60 for his lifestyle, and stashes the $15 leftover in tax-shelters. B splits his money $22/$3 between spending & saving. Out of the original $100, only $82 is coming back into the economy for spending.
What happens if that split is now $85 for A, $15 for B? A still has a $60 lifestyle, so now it's $25 into tax shelters. B has to cut back, so now his split is $13/$2. Now, out of the original $100, only $73 is being circulated.
Would you argue that an economy spending $73 is doing better than it was when it was spending $82?
Maybe. What you ignore is that the $15 saved by A is now available for C to start a new company or expand his company. You can't do that without capital.
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