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Yeah, it sure seems that way, considering their platform this year.
it's a shame because I actually agree with conservatives on many issues, especially the 2A. But it's embarrassing to watch what they foam in the mouth over.
Oh brother. Just because women reject these poorly written laws (one cannot substantiate how a person identifies just from them entering the bathroom) that leave open the possibility of real predators to abuse the laws, doesn't mean we're AFRAID of transgender people. And I reject the MISOGYNIST notion that people who desire to keep male genitalia are women.
We don't. Well, aside from Jenner and a few others. But there is a process, and it takes time. Plus surgery is heinously expensive, it takes a while to save up for it. I despise what I was born with, but I'm stuck with it until I can have surgery.
Why would people be up in arms about this? Plenty of stores and restaurants have single stall bathrooms. I'm female, not transgender, and I prefer them. Love the privacy.
There will be one, like with Wal-Mart. And, probably like Wal-Mart, when you need it, someone will be in there and have set up for awhile or so was my experience when having to take my adult son with DS to the restroom. Still doesn't solve the video taping in the dressing rooms.
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Try not to confuse people who are so ready to have a temper fit that they didn't stop to understand single stall (as in completely private and nobody else in the room no matter their gender)!
One single stall and still allowing males/females to use the gender between their ears rather than their legs.
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Single stall bathrooms may be in the future for all public places. Either that or simply remove gender and gender identity and simple have "Penises" and "Vaginas" restrooms. If you have a penis, you use the "Penises" room and vice-versa.
With just one bathroom as a single, the problem will still exist plus the dressing rooms will still be open to everything. Their gender is between their ears instead of between their legs, thus cannot be verified.
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What does Target plan to do with their dressing room policy? They let men use the women's dressing room. That is even worse, imho.
That's where the trouble seemed to be. Men using their phones to videotape young women undressing. And, it was teen boys but older adult men doing it.
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Has there been a case of sexual assault reported due to this?
Just videotaping. Are you saying you wouldn't mind yourself videotaped undressing? What about other family members?
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A man was arrested for videoing women as they changed in the dressing room.
No shortage of males and females who are uncomfortable/ become anxious when using multi stall/ urinal/ sink facilities.
Really? I wonder if they can get psychological help for that or should that be considered a verified disability requiring special accommodations. Again, that is a between the ears issue.
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and that person was arrested, right?
how do you stop people from committing a crime before they do it?
with many transgenders it's impossible to tell they aren't the sex they are dressing as. Should the dressing room attendant grab the crotches of every customer before letting them in?
You don't give them the opportunity to commit the crime in the first place thus all the noise about this. A man doesn't have to be dressed as a woman to share that facility, just "feel" like a woman. We can't question "feelings" because that is just not "pc". We have to let them commit an offense and then we'll look into the matter.
it's a shame because I actually agree with conservatives on many issues, especially the 2A. But it's embarrassing to watch what they foam in the mouth over.
I agree! I'm also a Second Amendment supporter. I have no problem with guns at all. But yeah ,they're getting all wound up over the wrong things.
The danger is not from transgenders. The danger comes from men dressed as men who would be protected from being questioned as to why they are going into or loitering outside the women's restrooms or changing rooms. Other than the Houston ordinance (which was defeated), I'm not sure if any other law has this effect.
Bingo. And that is the issue with Target's policy. Predators don't even have to put on a disguise to gain access to women's dressing rooms.
We don't. Well, aside from Jenner and a few others. But there is a process, and it takes time. Plus surgery is heinously expensive, it takes a while to save up for it. I despise what I was born with, but I'm stuck with it until I can have surgery.
If someone is diagnosed by medical professionals, and their mental health is in danger without it, I do think the surgery should be covered by their insurance. What I dislike is this sexist narrative--represented by Caitlyn Jenner in a negligee on the cover of Vanity Fair--that the meaning of womanhood is wearing makeup and prancing around in sexy clothes. Nothing wrong at all with doing those things but it's a pretty shallow and insulting view that that is what makes someone female.
Haven't you ever gone into the men's bathroom even when they were present. Who cares. You guys are so paranoid about men. Please don't teach your children your paranoia.
Yes, that's just paranoia to teach children their privates are for their eyes only. And that uncomfortable feeling they get when the opposite sex is gazing at their naked body parts, teach to them, this too shall pass.
Tell me are we now removing indecent exposure (to minor) laws off regulating criminal behaviors? Seems to me that issue will become a moot point in law proceedings, when the perp that is arrested can say, 'I had a feminine or masculine moment'.
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Yes, now it is possible for the criminals to lock themselves and anyone else in the bathroom with them.
The problem isn't a lack of being able to lock a door, tue problem is allowing political correctness to permit a man to use toilet facilities designed and purposed for women.
You were born either male or female. Let the first PC advocate stand up when a female of an animal species gets killed and see if they have the same reaction as when a male is killed. Now add a newborn into the picture.
To further illustrate, take a group of hikers. Some are male, some female and some believe they are the opposite gender. Everyone has to "go" in the woods.
They are a group who only know each other casually, say a workplace retreat, something like that.
You happen to be there. Your wife and daughter have to "go" and walk into the woods. Its getting dusk.
A person appearing to be a man decides to go ad well so they walk in the same direction wifey and daughter went. You as the husband and father pay no attention and think, oh, he must be a transgender undergoing therapy or physical conversion?
Maybe one day we'll all be so enlightened that one can be male on Tuesday and female on Saturday but not yet.
How is it that any person can be so selfaware as to know they are born with the parts they should not have yet be so selfish as to be totally unaware of others and demand that for the sake of themselves hundreds of millions of other people must change, not because of necessity or well being but because it can be done?
people are always afraid of what's different. it's inherent in the GOP platform where ignorance runs RAMPANT!
Both parties will find themselves on the wrong side of some issues.
The GOP will slowly come around on many LGBT issues.
Although I'm not a Republican, I am a conservative who is trying to open the eyes of other conservatives.
The GOP should embrace LGBT people, because they share many values and opinions. Gay people tend to be more conservative economically and tend to favor smaller government control. I would guess this to be true for transgendered people, but since I don't know any outside of CD, I don't have the chance to discuss such matters with them like I do with gay and lesbian people.
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Still doesn't solve the video taping in the dressing rooms.
