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Old 08-18-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Yes, now it is possible for the criminals to lock themselves and anyone else in the bathroom with them.

The problem isn't a lack of being able to lock a door, tue problem is allowing political correctness to permit a man to use toilet facilities designed and purposed for women.

You were born either male or female. Let the first PC advocate stand up when a female of an animal species gets killed and see if they have the same reaction as when a male is killed. Now add a newborn into the picture.

To further illustrate, take a group of hikers. Some are male, some female and some believe they are the opposite gender. Everyone has to "go" in the woods.

They are a group who only know each other casually, say a workplace retreat, something like that.

You happen to be there. Your wife and daughter have to "go" and walk into the woods. Its getting dusk.

A person appearing to be a man decides to go ad well so they walk in the same direction wifey and daughter went. You as the husband and father pay no attention and think, oh, he must be a transgender undergoing therapy or physical conversion?

Maybe one day we'll all be so enlightened that one can be male on Tuesday and female on Saturday but not yet.

How is it that any person can be so selfaware as to know they are born with the parts they should not have yet be so selfish as to be totally unaware of others and demand that for the sake of themselves hundreds of millions of other people must change, not because of necessity or well being but because it can be done?
I'm thinking transgenders do not want to be in a bathroom doing their business with the opposite sex either. (if I try and clarify with pronouns I'm going to give myself a headache)

Society (not just the U.S. either) is not ready for a genderless environment, however, government(s) would like to get us there by force feeding the idea whereas necessary. Now, what could be the possible motivation on the side of government(s)? ...

Target thought they were doing some great and that would be appreciated by the TG group, but, they didn't really think it through ...
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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You don't give them the opportunity to commit the crime in the first place thus all the noise about this. A man doesn't have to be dressed as a woman to share that facility, just "feel" like a woman. We can't question "feelings" because that is just not "pc". We have to let them commit an offense and then we'll look into the matter.
sounds like the same argument people use against the 2A.

see how easy it is to generalize?
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Yes, now it is possible for the criminals to lock themselves and anyone else in the bathroom with them.

The problem isn't a lack of being able to lock a door, tue problem is allowing political correctness to permit a man to use toilet facilities designed and purposed for women.

for crap's sake!!

why don't you just pee when you're home? better yet, why don't all gays and trans just commit suicide, right?
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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why don't you just pee when you're home? better yet, why don't all gays and trans just commit suicide, right?
What you're missing is that it's not just the trans that want to gain access to these facilities. It's predatory men.

Men do not belong in women's restrooms/dressing rooms.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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for crap's sake!!

why don't you just pee when you're home? better yet, why don't all gays and trans just commit suicide, right?
This is the kind of over-the-top, illogical speech that turns ears off. Women with legitimate concerns about predators doesn't mean they want gay people (which has nothing to do with this topic) or transgenders to kill themselves! By the same token, do you hate women and girls and want us all to just commit suicide because we want sex segregated locker rooms and bathrooms?
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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What you're missing is that it's not just the trans that want to gain access to these facilities. It's predatory men.

Men do not belong in women's restrooms/dressing rooms.
what's stopping predators from doing what they do anywhere?

since when do criminals follow the law?
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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The word and idea of "embrace" has come to used used to mean little more than "my way or the highway". So it is with LGBT issues.

Take this issue for example. Are there two sides of the story being considered by the LGBT community at large and as important, their proponents and supporters? From what it looks like, there is only one side, the requirement to embrace LGBT.

News flash, typically, an embrace has two parts, each embracing the other, not always one side saying or demanding everyone or everything must embrace only one side.

Where is the reciprocal part of the embrace on this issue?

The US Constitution was never intended to force the majority to do what the minority wants just because it wants it. It was designed to provide equal protection so that one person should not be harmed in favor of another without due process.

The harm to a person who believes they are for example, a woman when their physical attributes are that of a man is harmed in what manner when they use tpilet facilities designed and purposed to accommodate humans of similar physical attributes?

Toilet facilities were not designed to accomplish how a person believes they were supposed to be created, they were designed and purposed to accomodate how they were created. There was no harm intended, no malicious thought in the design, planning or purposing of toilet facilities, therefore any harm is also a belief but isn't real. While a perception or belief may be the reality of a person or community of people, that doesn't mean it is right or just.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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This is the kind of over-the-top, illogical speech that turns ears off. Women with legitimate concerns about predators doesn't mean they want gay people (which has nothing to do with this topic) or transgenders to kill themselves! By the same token, do you hate women and girls and want us all to just commit suicide because we want sex segregate locker room and bathrooms?
you mean like this over the top illogical statement that I was replying to?

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Yes, now it is possible for the criminals to lock themselves and anyone else in the bathroom with them.
I figured one over the top statement deserved another.

there is no epidemic of trans people attacking others. why don't you focus on some actual problems get real
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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what's stopping predators from doing what they do anywhere?

since when do criminals follow the law?
You want to make it easier for them?
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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You want to make it easier for them?


lets make all guns illegal - after all, you want to make it easier for criminals to get them?
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