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Old 08-25-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Uh- that's spelled "There's" not "theirs". Know the difference?

When are you going to talk about the Great Society? I don't ththink you can. This is only more obfuscation.

Like I said, Johnson was a southern man of his times. "Uppity" usually was followed by the N word. So what? Despite his personal coarseness, Johnson went on to sponsor and put into law the Civil Rights Act, didn't he? that was his major program in his Great Society plan.
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that was his major program in his Great Society plan.
It was John F Kennedy's major program that he was unable to finish due to his untimely death while in office.

"Kennedy's political strategy was to delay sending a civil rights bill to Congress until his second term, when he could afford to split his party and pick up the backing of moderate Republicans to pass the measure. He felt that if he did this in his first term, the rest of his program would suffer. However, African-Americans remained unconvinced of the political maneuvering and insisted on immediate action to protect their rights. Toward the end of 1963, Kennedy finally submitted a civil rights bill, which became law after his death." John F. Kennedy: Domestic Affairs
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Keeping negros voting Democrat for 200 year, was not about public assistance. There was way more to it.
And the Republican black person knows this ...
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Straight from the horses mouth.

"These ni**erss, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them ni**ers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years". - Lyndon B. Johnson,


How is is working out for ya?

I tried finding a source for that LBJ "quote" but all I got was a circle of right wing blogs and no credible reference to anything like LBJ actually uttering those words.

Not that I'd put it past him.
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Old 08-25-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: *
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The only thing I disagree with in the CRA is the property rights section, it gives the government too much power over what you can and cannot do on your own property.
Uncanny coincidence. Some folks said the very same thing about the Civil Rights Act of 1875.
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Old 08-25-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Read the Secret Service book by Ronald Kessler (In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes with Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect) -- chapter about Lyndon Johnson's presidency. The guy was pretty crude about everything so this doesn't stand out.
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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It was John F Kennedy's major program that he was unable to finish due to his untimely death while in office. ...
Untimely death by assassination. Like Martin Luther King. & Malcolm X. & Medgar Evers. & ...

Many years previously, closer in time to the 1st Civil Rights Act of 1875, President Lincoln.

Uncanny coincidence how folks just get offed when it comes to civil rights. The hate inspired violence didn't stop with the murder of President Lincoln.

What followed was 8-1 SCOTUS decision that the Civil Rights Act of 1875 was unconstitutional.

When the CRA was thus stripped of its ability to protect civil rights, it was only natural for some folks to feel they were given much more than an inch, so proceeded to take the proverbial mile. With the accompanying hate & violence.

Jim Crow signage had already been posted & local & state laws cemented those 'Whites Only' signs firmly into place. With the accompanying hate & violence.

13 years later with Plessy v. Ferguson (1896) decision came 'separate but equal' doctrine, dogma, etc. With the accompanying hate & violence.

History rhymes with these present day white nationalists, racial 'realists' & supremacists talking the same crap. Thankfully, at least there seem to be fewer civil rights associated assassinations.
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Untimely death by assassination.


Assassinated by a socialist. Malcolm X was assassinated by fellow Black Muslims.


The government should have no business telling people who they can associate with. The government should enforce neither segregation or integration.

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Old 08-25-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Assassinated by a socialist. Malcolm X was assassinated by fellow Black Muslims.


The CRA of 1875 has nothing to do with the 1964 CRA
How so? The resistance to civil rights people are saying the same thing in the present day as the resisters were saying back then. What's changed?
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:40 PM
 
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Assassinated by a socialist. Malcolm X was assassinated by fellow Black Muslims.


The government should have no business telling people who they can associate with. The government should enforce neither segregation or integration.
That was what some said about CRA 1875, & the SC agreed (1 dissenting) & declared the CRA 1875 unconstitutional.

The dissenting opinion:

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...Justice Harlan challenged the Court's narrow interpretation of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments in his dissent for all five of the cases. As he noted, Congress was attempting to overcome the refusal of the states to protect the rights denied to African Americans that white citizens took as their birthright. ...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Cases

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Old 08-25-2016, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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How so? The resistance to civil rights people are saying the same thing in the present day as the resisters were saying back then. What's changed?
One thing that hasn't changed...Some folks don't like mobsters telling them what to do at gunpoint regardless of the year.
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