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They don't pay enough. They do not pay enough for the benefits they receive. They receive on average three times the benefits they paid in. The rest of their coverage is paid for by taxpayers like me. If government health coverage is bad, Medicare needs to end. It costs the country too much. You can have the benefits you paid for and then when you've spent your allowance (your contribution) the wallet should close. Personal responsibility! Time to pay for your own health coverage!
Like I said. You have no basic understanding of economics, health care as either applies to this question. Sounds like you want to troll rather than add opinions which are reasonable.
Like I said. You have no basic understanding of economics, health care as either applies to this question. Sounds like you want to troll rather than add opinions which are reasonable.
You are incorrect. What I see are a lot of seniors attacking Obamacare while either receiving or counting the days until they receive their own share of the Medicare pie. They scream about the takers but they can't wait to be a taker themselves. They scream about government health care but Medicare is the golden calf they really cannot wait for.
Before thinking of doing anything else, the outrageous health costs need to be addressed first.
There is absolutely no reason why a pair of latex gloves should be billed at $50+. Or why Americans pay several times the amount for a prescription drug as anybody else on the planet would pay. And especially since that's the case, there's no reason why said Americans should be barred from importing their prescription drugs from other countries (where medication is actually affordable).
Until the costs themselves are addressed, any coverage system is going to be very expensive and unwieldy. Whether it's Obamacare, single-payer, or the classic American 'throw-em-to-the-wolves' system that preceded Obamacare.
I agree with most of what you are saying.
I lived in Thailand for a while, and a stomach medicine I took was about 20% as expensive in Thailand as it was in the United States. Same product. Same company (Searle at the time).
Hell, if my doctor prints out a page for me off the internet about something, he charges me $1 per page. I told him no more...I'll go home and look it up myself.
Are you willing to limit care or turn off care? If not you don't have a clue as to costs and care requirements.
I thought his post was right on target.
Let me give you an example.
I recently had an ultrasound done, as ordered by by specialist. When I had my follow-up appointment, my doctor said he had gone over the ultrasound, showed me a few abnormalities that were irrelevant, and prescribed a course of action for a condition. Fine. Then I get a bill (paid for by insurance) for the doctor at the imaging center who ALSO studied the ultrasound. I didn't need him to study the test; my specialist was totally qualified and did that.
There. Fixed it for ya. Obamacare is the classic throw 'em to the wolves system for all that aren't subsidized. Premiums in New York will be going up by 22% this upcoming year (was just announced a couple of weeks ago). And once they eliminated the catastrophic health care plans (which was what young people should be buying), costs of the lower level plans went up for everyone. People living in Nevada were the highest with plans that were nearly 3x what they were paying. And how soon people forget the "I will reduce health care premiums by $2500" and "If you like your doctor, you can keep him" and "there are currently 47 million Americans without healthcare insurance". There were so many lies told about Obamacare that I get dizzy thinking about them. But we've apparently gotten to the point that lying is OK (just keep moving the goal post to the next topic and no one will notice...just like the other poster claiming that a CEO salary is the reason health care insurance is so high....just keep piling on with the nonsense). Great lesson to teach the kids. Lie about everything and you'll get ahead in life, kiddies. We might have another serial liar elected if Hillary gets in.
You do not modify another poster's post on this forum.
Yeah, I don't know what he meant either. The first thing I would do is stop with so many freaking restrictions on getting the drugs to market. Do we really need to spend the kind of money the FDA requires on testing to get a medication approved? I'm not saying no testing, but let's be realistic here. The amount of money it costs to get a drug to the market is absurd.
Well, if you watch the drug ads on t.v. with all their explanations of side effects...yes, I think we do need all that testing.
For example, I was on omeprazole for about 4 years. Then that study came out showing that there might be a link between heart issues and omeprazole. I immediately stopped taking omeprazole, and my rather chronic episodes of mild tachycardia were reduced by about 80%. Wish they had known that before.
Ah...I'm a senior and I still pay taxes. Possibly more than you do. So I'm not getting much for "free".
I doubt you are paying more than I. And if you are making so much, you shouldn't mind just getting the amount of benefits you paid for and then paying for a policy out of your own pocket after you have spent the amount you contributed to Medicare.
Well, if you watch the drug ads on t.v. with all their explanations of side effects...yes, I think we do need all that testing.
For example, I was on omeprazole for about 4 years. Then that study came out showing that there might be a link between heart issues and omeprazole. I immediately stopped taking omeprazole, and my rather chronic episodes of mild tachycardia were reduced by about 80%. Wish they had known that before.
Really? So how much do you think we should pay for that testing?
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