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Old 08-22-2016, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The base of the Republican Party are these poor whites so the Party will always oppose anything that will reduce the despair that keeps these people voting for their masters. So long as black people are worse off the disenfranchised and desperate Whites will remain Republican. The Donald has stolen these voters from the successful that own the RP. Some how he has convinced the se people he is somehow different than any of the other plutocrats. If he wins he will continue the RP's policies of exploiting poor whites for His own ends.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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Sadly, Right Wingers don't want to know the truth, if they actually paid attention, they'd also find the many poor whites and working poor whites were collateral damage and were considered sacrificially expendable.. so we have all the poor whites in the devastated town across america, and still they wont face up the facts and lay the blame where it belongs, which is on the Confederate Idealist Right Winger Republican System, which detested Unions, they detested it when they were formerly Confederate minded Southern Democrats, before they took over the Republican Party in 1969.


It's sad when the unaware are played like a yo-yo and they don't even know it.
Those Democrats from the early sixties and before were still the same Democrats in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
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Old 08-22-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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I'm not in a union, I've never been in a union, and I've never really cared much for them.

But the idea that they are "the big problem" in America today is totally disconnected from reality.

I assume all this weird nonsense is the view of a particular group of people: Folks who own a lot of property (and thus pay property taxes) in one of about 5 or 6 states with powerful public sector unions, like Illinois, New Jersey, California, New York, etc. I get why they would hate unions, but their particular interests are hardly relevant to America as a whole.

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Old 08-22-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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The culinary union where I live has kept the standard of living from dropping to third world staus even though we are a service based economy. The corporations are rapidly doing what they can to get rid of any decent paying jobs the workers used to have. For instance, MGM properties are now charging customers for parking and outsourced all their valet guys who used to make good tips. Bye bye tips. Bye bye health insurance. See ya, 401k benefit. You are now a contract employee. 10 years on the job? That's your problem.

Except at their one property where the valet was union. Violates the contract.

You people who want to sell out your fellow Americans continue to amaze me.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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Those Democrats from the early sixties and before were still the same Democrats in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
Not likely
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Not likely
How do you explain the people of Alabama voting Democrat George Wallace as their governor in 1962, 1974 and 1982?

It's amazing how many people fall for this false narrative of a party swap in the south. I guess it's what Democrats have to tell themselves to hide the racist past of their party.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Say what? Hillary and Bill beat him to it with nafta over 15 years ago.
Memory Lane

1980- Reagan campaigned on the platform of creating a free trade agreement with Mexico. His administration created the foundation.

1988-1992- Bush 1 negotiated the agreement and eventually signed the agreement ( subject to Congress approval) after he lost his second term.

1993- Newt was a huge supporter of NAFTA.

House- 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voted in favor
Senate- 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats voted in favor.

Bill Clinton signed it.

The Bush 2 administration which had a majority in both chambers for most of the time could have voted to repeal it. They did not.

2014- present - The Republicans regained the majority of both chambers and could have voted to repeal NAFTA at any point over the past 2.5 years. They did not.

Major manufacturers choose to not limit the sale of their products to just 5% of the world's population.
Mexico was and remains a desirable place for European and US companies to manufacture because Mexico has more free trade agreements with the rest of the world than any other country

While wages are lower, Payroll taxes are higher in Mexico.

Trump appears to be running on a platform of developing protectionist policies, yet he and his family's retail products are manufactured in Mexico, China, Viet Nam, Thailand and Bangladesh where the average wage is .33/ hr. For whatever reason he has chosen to not walk the talk.
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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Why is he not mentioning labor unions in his campaign?

If all 50 states went right to work and labor unions were abolished, millions of jobs would be created because unions won't hire.

This should be a part of his campaign.
Is this your goal:


Abolish labor unions, so that US companies can pay workers peanuts, and have them work long shifts, 7 days per week, use child labor, under dangerous conditions, with no paid vacation or medical benefits. That way labor will be as cheap here as it is in Cambodia or Honduras and all of those wonderful sweat shop jobs will come back here?
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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Is this your goal:


Abolish labor unions, so that US companies can pay workers peanuts, and have them work long shifts, 7 days per week, use child labor, under dangerous conditions, with no paid vacation or medical benefits. That way labor will be as cheap here as it is in Cambodia or Honduras and all of those wonderful sweat shop jobs will come back here?
The law doesn't allow child labor.

I was never a member of a labor union, and I made lots of money.

In which century are you living?
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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He'd better worry about crushing Hillary first.

And we all know that THAT won't be happening.

Yeah...crush unions, and here comes millions of jobs, huh?

Geez, where have I heard that before?
Probably why now he's backing off on deporting illegals, probably wants to let companies hire them for peanuts.
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