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Old 08-23-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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It would be more sensible to go to a Black church or to a Black neighborhood. I notice alot of Republican candidates never go to Black areas.
Yes. While I don't much like his policy positions, I give Rand Paul credit for visiting Howard University and engaging with students there a couple of years ago. It was a start though not sufficient by itself.

 
Old 08-23-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Yes. While I don't much like his policy positions, I give Rand Paul credit for visiting Howard University and engaging with students there a couple of years ago. It was a start though not sufficient by itself.
He did more than Donald Trump has done. John Kasich has done more than what Donald Trump did. Last I checked, John Kasich did alright with Black voters in his state, Ohio. However, the candidate who won the nomination was a loudmouth who said some stupid things regarding Blacks. And it makes one wonder this. Why is it that the candidates who did better among Blacks didn't win the Republican nomination?
 
Old 08-23-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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It would be more sensible to go to a Black church or to a Black neighborhood. I notice alot of Republican candidates never go to Black areas.

Better yet, why aren't members of the Black middle class voting Republican?
The GOP doesn't think they need to atleast split the Black vote to win the presidency.

The GOP is still under the thought that thay just need to talk about gays or abortion to win an election. Donald has won the election speaking of fear that Whites have about Blacks
 
Old 08-23-2016, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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The only reason the GOP doesn't reach out to Black voters is because they think we are mostly welfare leeches. Nothing's stopping them from making the same economic pitches they make in rural America if they thought Black America has money to spend. Nothing's stopping them from making the same low-tax pitch they make if they thought Black Americans had jobs and paid taxes.

The lack of outreach says more about what the GOP thinks about Black Americans than anything Democrats could label them with.
 
Old 08-23-2016, 06:49 PM
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Mainstream African Americans used to be conservatives. Black people like my older relatives who entered college in the 40's were Republicans. When you look at the older protesters during the civil rights era you will see well dressed people in hats, suits and ties, white shirts and black slacks. They were conservative because the generation before them told them that this was the only way you will be accepted by mainstream White America.

That generation soon became disillusioned because although mainstream White America approved of the restrained, educated, and conservative African American, he was still told to keep his distance from them; socially, financially, educationally and occupationally. So African Americans born in the 40's started to liberalize and by the time they came of age the Democratic party was adapting to population shifts and it became the party that would be more accepting of the new liberalized African American.

The dichotomy is Republicans want African americans to change before they can accept them, and African Americans need the Republican Party to change before they can accept it.

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Old 08-24-2016, 05:39 AM
 
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The GOP doesn't think they need to atleast split the Black vote to win the presidency.

The GOP is still under the thought that thay just need to talk about gays or abortion to win an election. Donald has won the election speaking of fear that Whites have about Blacks
Ans some wonder why Blacks aren't voting Republican. Think about this. Kasich and Paul did alright with Black Americans. Alot of other Republicans aren't. No one is asking why.
 
Old 08-24-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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Mainstream African Americans used to be conservatives. Black people like my older relatives who entered college in the 40's were Republicans. When you look at the older protesters during the civil rights era you will see well dressed people in hats, suits and ties, white shirts and black slacks. They were conservative because the generation before them told them that this was the only way you will be accepted by mainstream White America.

That generation soon became disillusioned because although mainstream White America approved of the restrained, educated, and conservative African American, he was still told to keep his distance from them; socially, financially, educationally and occupationally. So African Americans born in the 40's started to liberalize and by the time they came of age the Democratic party was adapting to population shifts and it became the party that would be more accepting of the new liberalized African American.

The dichotomy is Republicans want African americans to change before they can accept them, and African Americans need the Republican Party to change before they can accept it.
If this is truly the case, then the complaints about African-Americans voting Democrat will never make African-Americans want to vote Republican. Those who complain have not thought of a strategy to get Blacks to want to vote Republican. Just complaining and talking condescendingly about Blacks. It isn't working. Unless the complaints are code for "we don't want Blacks around".
 
Old 08-24-2016, 06:21 AM
 
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Why do blacks vote Democrat? Years of propaganda and tribalism for most. Some actually believe in the Democrat Party ideals of communal living, big government knows best, and the welfare state running everyone's lives from cradle to grave.

Blacks sure aren't voting Democrat based on results.
 
Old 08-24-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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If this is truly the case, then the complaints about African-Americans voting Democrat will never make African-Americans want to vote Republican. Those who complain have not thought of a strategy to get Blacks to want to vote Republican. Just complaining and talking condescendingly about Blacks. It isn't working. Unless the complaints are code for "we don't want Blacks around".
If the Republican Party has to pander to blacks like the Democrat Party does, then count me out. If we're ever going to have a colorblind society, then no more special perks based on melanin level, or lack of melanin level.
 
Old 08-24-2016, 06:27 AM
 
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If the Republican Party has to pander to blacks like the Democrat Party does, then count me out. If we're ever going to have a colorblind society, then no more special perks based on melanin level, or lack of melanin level.
Republican Party had no problem "pandering" to Hispanics in the 80s under Reagan. Had not problem "pandering" to Hispanics under Bush Jr.

Answer this. Why is your definition of "pandering"?
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