University of Chicago: No Safe Spaces Here (dollar, Massachusetts, examples)

[MPowering1]

Originally Posted by lycos679

I'm not aware of that even happening.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone removing the loud mouth disrupting the event, and it's no secret that Milo gets this kind of response on every campus he's invited to, so I'm assuming the police were either told not to intervene, or that was a decision they made on their own.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

This is disingenuous. I looked at examples listed by FIRE at the link you provided and the vast majority of these cases were either speakers critical of the Catholic Church's stance on abortion cancelled by private Catholic schools or pro-Palestinian speakers cancelled by schools after pro-Israel lobbying. These are religious issues, not leftists cancelled by conservatives.

I have not read over every link, but lets say you are right.


Why is it worse for the students who pay tuition to want their tuition dollars spent on a speaker they actually want to listen to vs the religious right and other professional groups dictating to them who to listen to ?????

Seems to me that the second is far worse.

[The Dark Enlightenment]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I have not read over every link, but lets say you are right.


Why is it worse for the students who pay tuition to want their tuition dollars spent on a speaker they actually want to listen to vs the religious right and other professional groups dictating to them who to listen to ?????

Seems to me that the second is far worse.

...not the religious right and professional groups. the Catholic Church and the pro-Israel lobby.

[katygirl68]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I have not read over every link, but lets say you are right.


Why is it worse for the students who pay tuition to want their tuition dollars spent on a speaker they actually want to listen to vs the religious right and other professional groups dictating to them who to listen to ?????

Seems to me that the second is far worse.

Usually these speakers are invited by a group of students and paid for by the group. They even have to pay extra for security because of all those students who don't believe in freedom of speech or manors. So it's not tuition money paying for it, and they ought to be kicked out of the events. If they don't like someone, protest outside or listen and then question during question and answer portion at the end of the speech. It would get a lot more respect, and the kids may learn to see through other perspectives.

[lycos679]

Originally Posted by MPowering1

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone removing the loud mouth disrupting the event, and it's no secret that Milo gets this kind of response on every campus he's invited to, so I'm assuming the police were either told not to intervene, or that was a decision they made on their own.

Are you talking about the videos that were posted? Those videos were not filmed at the University of Chicago, but at The University of Massachusetts.

[katygirl68]

Originally Posted by MPowering1

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone removing the loud mouth disrupting the event, and it's no secret that Milo gets this kind of response on every campus he's invited to, so I'm assuming the police were either told not to intervene, or that was a decision they made on their own.

I'm pretty sure it's the latter. The woman speaker said something about inviting here to sit there to illustrate the point. She probably found her in the back of the room and got her near the front row. Part of the show, but I'm sure not scripted. And there are plenty of other examples of protesters interrupting speeches without an invitation.

[Chuckity]

Originally Posted by katygirl68

Usually these speakers are invited by a group of students and paid for by the group. They even have to pay extra for security because of all those students who don't believe in freedom of speech or manors. So it's not tuition money paying for it, and they ought to be kicked out of the events. If they don't like someone, protest outside or listen and then question during question and answer portion at the end of the speech. It would get a lot more respect, and the kids may learn to see through other perspectives.

Just a FYI ... student organizations typically receive funding from the university.

So yes, tuition money does pay for speakers. At least a portion of their speaking fees.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment

...not the religious right and professional groups. the Catholic Church and the pro-Israel lobby.

I clicked on enough of the links to know that It wasnt just the church or the pro Israel Lobby( which actual is a professional group).

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by katygirl68

. If they don't like someone, protest outside or listen and then question during question and answer portion at the end of the speech. It would get a lot more respect, and the kids may learn to see through other perspectives.

Someone already responded to the first half, so i will respond to this.

I dont even disagree with you, im just saying that if you are going to pay for a speaker, I dont see a problem with you paying for one you like.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

My biggest problem with the above argument is that(not the university, but your interpretation) is that you dont see that this works both ways.

The news never covers it when leftist speakers get their invitations rescinded

Which leftist speakers get their inviations rescinded?

Heck, my kids university can't even get a dang Chick-fil-a.

Please at least try to be honest, most college campuses exclude right vs. left at a grossly lopsided rate.

At my college we had speakers come talk about how HIV was made by the gov. to kill black people but heaven forbid if a conservative tried to speak there.

It largely boils down to which majors have free time to protest lol.