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Old 08-29-2016, 04:03 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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True, just 5 unelected and lifetime appointed judges can override the Executive, the Legislature and the vote and will of the American people combined, not to mention every other judges in the Judiciary. All based on claiming, the constitution means and doesn't mean what they say it means, just because THEY SAY SO!

It was never the intent of the constitution for the supreme court to be a super-supreme-legislator.
I'm always amazed at the lack of knowledge of American History one finds on this forum. It was with good reason that the founders, in their wisdom, established that the justices be appointed, not elected.

Further, because they can over rule the President and the Congress, they are the last line of defense against a tyrannical president, as well as Congressional over reach.

They are supposed to interpret the Constitution based on original intent ('originalist' justice Scalia), not in accordance with "the will of the people" or any modern notions, such as the notion of "living document," a phrase coined by Woodrow Willson, who is called by some, "the Father of the Progressive movement."

To determine "original intent," we have records like The Federalist Papers," and other writings of the founders and framers.

You might want to take a Constitution Course yourself to find out why the Court was established as it is.
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Old 08-29-2016, 04:08 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It was never the intent of the constitution for the supreme court to be a super-supreme-legislator.
True. The Supreme Court is not supposed to legislate. They are to interpret the law only, and also determine whether a law passed by Congress is in accordance with the Constitution. Sadly, they have failed in this area many times
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:34 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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No Judge should ever be appointed for life. They are insulated from the realities of life.
That's not unlike tenure for teachers, good or bad. Once they are granted tenure, they're in for life.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:58 AM
 
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True, just 5 unelected and lifetime appointed judges can override the Executive, the Legislature and the vote and will of the American people combined, not to mention every other judges in the Judiciary. All based on claiming, the constitution means and doesn't mean what they say it means, just because THEY SAY SO!

It was never the intent of the constitution for the supreme court to be a super-supreme-legislator.

Correct, it was intended that the Constitution be the guide, not their personal scratch paper to do with as they see fit.
It not for them to change with every political wind that blows by.
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Old 08-29-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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They created the Supreme Court to interpret the Constitution, it has been around for over 100 years but it has suddenly become ineffective because some don't like their decisions.

That is to interpret what it says in a comparative manner with what is before them.
it is not to interpret to being what they want it to say.
That is the type of decisions that are abhored.

Know why?
Because that is not constitutional in itself.
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Old 08-29-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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The judiciary today acts like a supreme legislator and supreme executor. This is because the judiciary fails to apply originalism, due deference to the other branches of government, or even precedence. This leads to judges applying personal opinion, over reach, and socio-political activism.
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Old 08-29-2016, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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That is to interpret what it says in a comparative manner with what is before them.
it is not to interpret to being what they want it to say.
That is the type of decisions that are abhored.

Know why?
Because that is not constitutional in itself.
I don't understand what you mean, do you have specific examples.
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Old 08-29-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Maybe the second amendment people can do something about this?
Lol,
But the reality, it only took 3% to fix things back then.
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Old 08-29-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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They're unelected and unaccountable. However, right or wrong, the executive branch seems to be getting a lot stronger.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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They're unelected and unaccountable. However, right or wrong, the executive branch seems to be getting a lot stronger.
As opposed to a congress that is elected but never held accountable.


Running record deficits, shortfalls in Medicare and Social Security and we are worried about the supreme court doing it's job?
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