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I don't believe any of it. Now the administration (Homeland Security/FBI) are talking election hacks. I just can't believe that if it's so easy to recognize Russian hacking that the Russians would be so stupid to make sure you know it's them doing the hacking. If you were Russian spies intent on hacking US systems wouldn't you make sure it looked like the Chinese did it or the North Koreans did it, for example? Also, what on earth could interest the Russians in the DNC e-mail?
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NO! I believe the the media is being careless and so are some politicians like Reid. The fbi is investigating multiple possibilities~ The media is running interference for Killiary. waCompost claims the October surprise will be lies made up by Putin to meddle in our elections.. Laughable if not so serious and pathetic at the same time. They did a knock out job brushing the last batch off the desk into the trash bin of history. What dnc hack? what dead dnc staffers?
I don't believe any of it. Now the administration (Homeland Security/FBI) are talking election hacks. I just can't believe that if it's so easy to recognize Russian hacking that the Russians would be so stupid to make sure you know it's them doing the hacking. If you were Russian spies intent on hacking US systems wouldn't you make sure it looked like the Chinese did it or the North Koreans did it, for example? Also, what on earth could interest the Russians in the DNC e-mail?
Laura ---- Your intuition serves you well.
Putin and the Russians are laughing their asses off at the notion that a huge majority of the American public still believes-in and trusts the collusive partnership between our press/news-networks and the government. They know most of the American people are still suckers.
It's my bet that both Assange/Snowden are on the US payroll and have nothing to do with the inner-workings of the Russian government or any controlled-by-them propaganda network.
Russia is the new boogeyman because it halted the imperialists/nation builders from taking out Assad and installing a new, friendly, puppet regime in Syria.
The important thing to always remember - There is no entity on the entire planet that is better than the US government at crafting propaganda to serve its '' ends justifies the means '' agenda.
What I believe is that only a few weeks ago people were berated for saying there could be election fraud. They were told there was nothing to worry about, and that making such claims were dangerous and had the potential to destabilize our democracy. The shoe seems to be on the other foot now, so I guess those claims are just to be forgotten now?
What I believe is that only a few weeks ago people were berated for saying there could be election fraud. They were told there was nothing to worry about, and that making such claims were dangerous and had the potential to destabilize our democracy. The shoe seems to be on the other foot now, so I guess those claims are just to be forgotten now?
Not exactly. What I and many others have been saying is that voter fraud is rare. Voter fraud is what happens when an individual casts a ballot illegally - non-resident, not a registered voter, impersonating a registered voter, etc.
Election fraud is when ballots are intentionally miscounted or the count is otherwise interfered with. It would cost a lot to hire enough people to deliberately commit voter fraud in numbers sufficient to swing an election, not to mention that there is zero chance that none of those people would talk. Much more effective, much cheaper, and much more secure to hire a hacker.
As to the OP - I dunno whether it's true that Russians have hacked into our voting systems - I'd like to see some more evidence. And I think that it matters whether it is the Russian gov or whether we are talking about individual Russian hackers.
Election system hacking worries me a lot. The threats, both internal and external, are very worrying.
Of course the Russians hacked the DNC servers. The Russians for 20 years have been the world's leading hackers, and they've broken into computers all over Europe, NATO, BBC, French TV and others. Too many independent computer security experts from outside the U.S. have confirmed, after looking at the evidence, that the DNC break-in bore the signature of a Russian hacking operation.
And Putin has a motive to hack the DNC. Clinton angered Putin in 2011 when she criticized an election in Russia and undermined their credibility. That plus Trump has sent obvious signals to Putin that his administration will be more pro-Russia than previous administrations.
Yes. Although I would not be surprised to see China helping. This is like destabilization 101. And the Russians are GOOD at it. I think we should return the favor.
BUT....."hacked into our systems" can mean a ton of different things. So without knowing the details, I would be hesitant to say what returning the favor looks like. Is it leaking Putins favorite foods, or is it hacking the missiles of a soviet cruiser, and remotely detonating them?
Or maybe as we did in the past.....killing lots of people in a explosion that looked like a nuclear detonation.
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