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Old 08-31-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Let's frantically and hysterically take a look at the numbers for the list of trouble countries that I cited. Where visitation can quickly lead to death or disfigurement. In the trouble countries where violence and mayhem are a daily occurrence, Islam probably runs well above 80%.


Source:
Muslim Population in Africa

50% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/chad
95% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/niger
90% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mali
50% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/burkina-faso
61% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mali
24% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/benin
99% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/mauritania
94% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/senegal
Disputed territory https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/western-sahara
99% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/morocco
99% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/algeria
99% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/libya
97% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/sudan
18% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/south-sudan
50% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/ethiopia
96% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/djibouti
50% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/eritrea
100% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/somalia
33% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/kenya
55% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania
35% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/uganda
10% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/congo
15% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...rican-republic
24% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/cameroon
12% Islam https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/gabon
For Africa as a whole, Islam is over 50% of the entire population of the continent. Most of the rest are variants of animism, which is even more prone to arbitrary cruelty and irrationality. So where you don't have outright wanton warfare, tribalism, and violence, you still have poverty, starvation, and a total lack of freedom and liberty. I think that speaks for itself. The continent would benefit from being colonized, however, I don't think we should have any part of that. We'd be doing them a favor, it would basically be welfare, and it would be throwing good money after very bad money.[/quote]

I think you should have put New Jersey on that list.
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:59 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Yep. Lol...

The worse thing to ever happen to that continent was the apparition of Europeans carrying Bibles...about the most deadly species on Earth.
Funny. Up until Islam got going in the early 600s CE, I thought Christianity was proceeding apace in N. Africa - especially the bits around Israel - Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt, etc., & stretching west from there. I don't remember how far south Christianity penetrated back then - but I always assumed that Christianity was spreading in Africa (the northern part, @ least) before it arrived in Europe.


Now a lot of coastal Africa is still fairly thinly populated - just along the coast & the natural waterways - rivers & lakes. But even so, that's a lot of area & population to cover. I'll have to look up the patterns of penetration of Christianity south into Africa.


I don't recall when the Bible was codified & the contents set. Before Martin Luther, certainly. & he's the person I associate with mass printing of Bibles & prayer books & such - & the beginnings of mass literacy among ordinary church goers.


There's always something to look into.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Elephants, Lions and many other species are being hunted to extinction because of the poor management and corruption of the African governments. Should the continent be re-colonized and the animals be protected and managed by American and European agencies? Or do we just let them disappear into oblivion?

It's proven that just giving the present governments money to take care of the animals does not work. The corruption is so bad that very little of the money ever saves a single animal.

Or should we just not care?

New elephant study shows catastrophic decline in Africa - CNN.com
America has problems too...should Africans invade us?
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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But those elephants and Lions don't stand a chance against the humans there who have been armed by outside forces.

No matter what people say, the continent HAS been corrupted by outside influence. That ship has sailed. There's no way the natives would be toting AK 47's if they weren't given to them. Those animals have no chance.

So it's screwed up, western society did it to them. We should fix it.
Bull. Past wrongs are in the past. And Africans, like the Native Americans encountered here by early settlers, were using knives and stones instead of AK 47s against each other going back to time immemorial. We changed the weapons, not the action or intent. What weapons they use to do what they have always been doing is irrelevant.


And we can't fix it. How do you fix non-working brains that choose Islam and Animism over Reality and Reason? You don't. You can't.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:09 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ha! We whities nearly destroyed the bison when we invaded North America. Extinction is hardly a problem exclusive to Africa.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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Europeans caused most extinctions of animals in recent history, especially in Australia and America.
Africans are ok. Leave them alone.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:17 PM
 
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Funny. Up until Islam got going in the early 600s CE, I thought Christianity was proceeding apace in N. Africa - especially the bits around Israel - Ethiopia, Somalia, Egypt, etc., & stretching west from there. I don't remember how far south Christianity penetrated back then - but I always assumed that Christianity was spreading in Africa (the northern part, @ least) before it arrived in Europe.


Now a lot of coastal Africa is still fairly thinly populated - just along the coast & the natural waterways - rivers & lakes. But even so, that's a lot of area & population to cover. I'll have to look up the patterns of penetration of Christianity south into Africa.


I don't recall when the Bible was codified & the contents set. Before Martin Luther, certainly. & he's the person I associate with mass printing of Bibles & prayer books & such - & the beginnings of mass literacy among ordinary church goers.


There's always something to look into.
Most African slaves arriving in the New World were animists with no knowledge of Christianity.

Sadly, that changed.

But most Sub Saharan Africans had little contact with Christianity up til then.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Ha! We whities nearly destroyed the bison when we invaded North America. Extinction is hardly a problem exclusive to Africa.
And the Asians who came to North America 10,000 plus years ago wiped out the mammoth and various other large and amazing creatures, and that's just as irrelevant in judging who has the authority to say what about endangered animals today.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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Bull. Past wrongs are in the past. And Africans, like the Native Americans encountered here by early settlers, were using knives and stones instead of AK 47s against each other going back to time immemorial. We changed the weapons, not the action or intent. What weapons they use to do what they have always been doing is irrelevant.


And we can't fix it. How do you fix non-working brains that choose Islam and Animism over Reality and Reason? You don't. You can't.
Animism served Africans just fine.

It's Islam and Christianity that's failed them.
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Elephants, Lions and many other species are being hunted to extinction because of the poor management and corruption of the African governments. Should the continent be re-colonized and the animals be protected and managed by American and European agencies? Or do we just let them disappear into oblivion?

It's proven that just giving the present governments money to take care of the animals does not work. The corruption is so bad that very little of the money ever saves a single animal.

Or should we just not care?

New elephant study shows catastrophic decline in Africa - CNN.com

We should care and do what we can. But re-colonization is of course way, way out of the question.
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