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Old 09-01-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
You need ID to get ID.
The first step is a copy of one's birth certificate---which every adult should have a copy of their own. If they have kids, they should also have the kids' copies.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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what about having an id for everything else, bank account, cashing check, buying beer and cig, renting anything. as far as driving 250 miles and overnight stay, that BS that somebody invented

Yeah, caught that also. Like climate change, don't like the facts make it up. Lefty way.


Type in DMV over a Texas map and it lights up with buckshot. Weird...
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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Again zero voter fraud was shown under the current system.
You cannot identify voter fraud no matter what the form of voting without identifying the voter, period. This is like telling a cop they cannot watch a stop sign and then declaring no one went though it because no tickets were issued.

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In one State after a massive search for fraud, only 5 cases were found. All people were US citizens and had proper ID. Problem was they had proper ID and were voting in two different States.
In one small county in Florida a TV station found a hundred fraudulent registrations just by comparing voter rolls and jury questionnaires, many of them voted. How many votes was it again Bush won by in Florida?
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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"Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.” - Pennsylvania Republican House Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA)


https://thinkprogress.org/pennsylvan...772#.jy2tfai1w
This comment is 100% inline with the premise of voter fraud. When a Democrat says voter ID will cause a Republican to win are they implying there is voter fraud?
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:36 PM
 
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Although a state-issued ID is technically free here in TX, you must produce a birth certificate, passport, or certain specified court documents to obtain one.
This is Federal law. See the Real ID act.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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Who can go without ID these days?
Not many, about 90% of eligible voters have some form of government issued ID.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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Why? I do not get your reasoning at all. You insult all those people.
If I need to show ID to pick up a library book, why can't everyone have an ID to vote? If they can't get to the DMV to get an ID, then maybe they are too feeble or stupid to vote anyway. Or maybe they're illegal, in which case they aren't eligible.
Correct, expecting someone to make the trip to licensing center once every four years is hardly unreasonable.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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Here in TX voters had to have state-issued ID. In some outlying rural areas, people have to travel up to 250 miles to obtain one, and in many cases the DMV offices are only open part-time.
If you are going to live in a rural area this is one of the compromises, where I live I can expect if there is a major storm power might be off for few days. That's another compromise.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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I am sure 99% of elderly have some kind of ID.
What is often overlooked is there is lot of elderly and low income people already paying for ID, with these laws they get it for free.
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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That's an interesting story. So is this one.

In addition, the potential for abuse of this rule is huge.

"...former U.S. House speaker Jim Wright reportedly was denied a voter ID card...

He said he was refused a voter ID card because his driver's license expired in 2010 and his faculty identification from Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, where he teaches, doesn't meet requirements under the state law enacted in 2011..."

Ex-House speaker Jim Wright rejected for voter ID card

Yet 90% of eligible voters have somehow manged to procure ID.
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