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Old 06-01-2008, 08:01 PM
 
Location: In a house
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We hope not
Then leave. Your the ones that dont like freedom.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:05 PM
 
Location: In a house
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Like Ehren Watada? Being called a traitor for his trouble? I think you'd be surprised at how many servicemen simply follow orders. That's what the military wants...not people who think for themselves.
Fact is, if they obey orders against the nation they swear to defend, theyre the traitors. We had one revolution so far, if another ones in the future so be it. Kinda stupid to think it wont happen.

The military wants people that jusy obey orders. That works good over seas. I'd bet money it wont work right here against Americans on a big scale.
Waco & Ruby Ridge mightta been litmuses for it.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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We hope not
I would certainly hope so.
Wouldn't want them to miss the big celebration.
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Then leave. Your the ones that dont like freedom.
We keep trying The MOD CUT Republicans filibuster the legislation.

Last edited by NewToCA; 06-01-2008 at 11:13 PM.. Reason: language
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:03 PM
 
Location: In a house
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We keep trying The MOD CUT Republicans filibuster the legislation.

No, I mean leave. Why stay if you dont like the laws?

Montana is not talking of leaving because they dont like it here, only because of contract violations. You on the other hand dont believe in American law.

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Old 06-02-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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We shouldn't let montana get away so easily. I say we pawn them off to canadians who've been scarfing up real estate there left and right.
20 trillion sound right to y'all?
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:14 AM
 
Location: PA
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A fantasy. No state will ever secede ever again, well that is unless they want the army to beat them into submission.

Assuming the army soldiers agree with this... remember the Army takes an oath to defend the constitution and states have that right to secede.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:19 AM
 
Location: PA
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I think another civil war is over due. Rights, the constitution and free people fighting against the government who is hell bent on destorying everyone's individual rights and ignore the constitution. The media would have some interesting coverage I think on this topic and the outrage of the US Army abusing it's power on it's citizens would be very interesting. Funny how States and People believe in defending the constitution and rights are now the enemny. Hmmmmm I wonder what country we live you in? I find that very interesting. Did you notice when people are armed Government seems to keep themselves in check and when they try to disarm us they find it very difficult. The Governments solution to Gun Rights like the Nazi's and other Communists/Socialist countries is to make the people willing believe guns are bad the Government will take care of you. History shows what happens to people who are unarmed.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Stipulations are put on rights all the time- why is it such a stretch when talking about the 2nd amendment?
Think about any other amendment in the Bill of Rights and ask yourself that same question. Then you'll understand why people get upset when you start talking about curtailing rights.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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You can't keep criminals from getting guns unless you can find every gun in the country, melt them down and throw them in the ocean. It just isn't feasible. Had your friend been armed he would've had a chance. I'm sorry.
Exactly. If the guy didn't have a gun, he could have made a homemade bomb, or he could have driven a car into a building or a crowd of people. Banning guns won't stop desperate people from committing desperate acts.
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