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Old 09-05-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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I remember our war criminal president used it to get us into 2 wars where thousands of Americans died for foreign interests over an attack that has MANY unanswered questions and an official account most critical thinking people don't believe and never will.
YOU don't like George W Bush?!
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:19 PM
 
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One week from today will be the 15 year anniversary of the attacks. Have we 'forgotten'? Have we just decided that the 'official story' is what we're going with at this point?
Not all of us.... ALL OF US KNOW WHAT HAPPEND!! (And its not the official BS fairy tale)
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:20 AM
 
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Don't forget about war criminal Hillary's vote.

Also, let's not forget Obama's war crimes while he has been in office.
Interesting accusations Pedro,care to elaborate?
The way i see Hillaries vote to go to war with Iraq she was one of 297 who got duped into GWBs bs about WMD and voted to go to war . that doesnt constitute a crime=
  • 215 (96.4%) of 223 Republican Representatives voted for the resolution.
  • 82 (39.2%) of 209 Democratic Representatives voted for the resolution.
As for Obama hes been trying to get us out of two wars GWB started also nothing hes done could be construed as a war criminal act.
George Bush on the other hand is the very definition of the term.

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Old 09-06-2016, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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"WE" didn't meddle in the Islamic world.

ISLAM has been at war with America from the beginning.
“We took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.â€
- - - Thomas Jefferson, Letter from the commissioners (John Adams, Thomas Jefferson) to John Jay, 28 March 1786, in Thomas Jefferson Travels: Selected Writings, 1784-1789, by Anthony Brandt, pp. 104-105.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

(Digest version : We consider all mankind as our friends. Their response : It is their right and duty to make war upon all infidels, and make slaves of all they could take as prisoners.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
“The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.â€
- - - John Quincy Adams, 6th American President
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apc...7&article=1142

(Digest version : Koran imposes perpetual war against infidels. Convert, dhimmi, or die... no other option.)
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That Islam (house of submission) is in perpetual war with the infidel (house of war), and that mosques are houses of warship, do not change the 'other' issue that American governments desperately need wars to excuse endless deficit spending.

Pursuant to 12 USC Sec. 411, the only way to authorize new Federal Reserve Notes (dollar bills) is to go into debt. Since usury requires an ever growing money supply (in fact, infinite), there is no other option. It's no coincidence that when Congress "accidentally" didn't have a deficit (1999-2000), it triggered the Dot Com BUST. All that new debt and investment needed more and more FRNs. No debt - no new FRNs - badda boom. You can't challenge this madness, pursuant to section 4, 14th amendment, USCON.

The remedy is so politically incorrect - acknowledgment of the private creation of money - that "the powers" blanch. If people switched from worthless FRNs to private money, it would not only wipe out the public debt, it would make billionaires into zero-aires, as the undercapitalized FRNs cease to have legal tender status. And trigger a 97% downsizing of government. . . if anyone stays in office. I suspect there would be a wholesale resignation and swift emigration to nations that do not extradite to the USA. They aren't stupid - even when they pretend to be.
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Old 09-06-2016, 06:16 AM
 
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Over 3000 people slaughtered on American soil and still no justice. I smell cowardice all around
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Over 3000 people slaughtered on American soil and still no justice. I smell cowardice all around
As a result we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan killing hundreds of thousands,we ousted Saddam Husein and killed Osama Ben Laden what justice do you think wasnt addressed?
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:34 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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As a result we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan killing hundreds of thousands,we ousted Saddam Husein and killed Osama Ben Laden what justice do you think wasnt addressed?
WE spend hundreds of billions a year on national defense. Yet no US based fighter planes were prepared to scramble in the defense of our nation... Our very expensive military that is for our national defense still is not used to defend American citizens from foreign enemies.
That is a justice that still has not been addressed.
How many US citizens die or are injured in this country every year at the hands of an illegal?
We don't and can't secure our own border, but we sure seem to be able to secure South Korea's.
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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While driving in Santa Clara one afternoon I made a wrong turn and thought I was suddenly in the ME as I was near a very large islamic "school". The only thing that has changed since 9/11 is that there are now more of them in the U.S. spreading their hate.

U.S. Islamic Schools Teaching Homegrown Hate | Fox News
OMG! How did you ever make it back out alive?!
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Old 09-06-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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As a result we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan killing hundreds of thousands,we ousted Saddam Husein and killed Osama Ben Laden what justice do you think wasnt addressed?
Saddam Husein was originally trained and installed by the CIA...as for Bin Laden...American intelligence always knew where he was - when it was opportune Hilary Clinton and Obama picked the low hanging fruit and had the guy killed to gain political points...Mean while Saddam and Bin Laden really did not have anything to do with 911....all the culprits were Saudi nationals...the money to finance the slaughter came out of Saudi Arabia.

Killing goat herders in Afghanistan did not even come close to resolving the issue...and the ousting of Saddam and his hanging also had no real direct effect on the situation. When it comes to power and status...money etc...911 proved one thing, that human life came second to money power and intrigue.

The heart breaking part of 911 was in the fact that GOOD....people were destroyed...The images of victims leaping from the tower holding hands is still haunting....also...the last cell phone messages to be emitted from the tower all consisted of "I love you"...this was stupidity and evil attacking goodness....and I guess being good does not mean much to some.
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Old 09-06-2016, 08:06 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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You would be in favor of rounding them all up and bombing the hell out of them?,you going to be a busy boy with your plan to build walls around the country ,eliminate immigrants rid the country of all Muslims all Mexicans, any others on your list? so much for that much vaunted ideal of American freedom seems its only available to a select demographic of cultural elitists., this course of action sounds vaguely familiar.
Where do you find any of that in my post? That's the problem with Leftists like you. You make up your own version of anything anyone says with whom you disagree.

So, you're a champion of "open borders"? Great. You have just given away our nation.

The complete ignorance of people like you is stunning.

Islam is not a "religion of peace," and they follow a book, the "Qur'an" which tells them that they are to conquer the world. slay the non-believer and bring the entire world under submission to Sharia (Islamic Law). Their beliefs are entirely incompatible with American values, freedom, American laws, and our Constitution. They believe their law is higher than our law, and they believe that Muslims are superior to all other peoples of the earth.

It is foolish, and it is pure folly to be bring them to this country (most of them don't even want to come here) by the tens of thousands, and settle them in American towns, villages and cities, where they are a threat to our people (documented cases are everywhere), refuse to assimilate, because most are Sharia adherents, and their enclaves become ghettos and "no-go zones" as in Europe.

Further, it is utter stupidity to allow Islamists to advise our military, our President, or any other official or agency of the U.S. government, as is now occurring. As one such Islamist put it, "We are here for a purpose. We are here not to just be nice to people, but to bring Islamic ways to this country."

So, yes, I am against admitting Muslims into this country.

As for American Freedom (your last statement above), Muslims do not believe in our kind of freedom. Sharia is what they believe in, and that is as far removed from American ideals as one can get.

You need to become educated. You have an information deficit.
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