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Old 09-08-2016, 07:09 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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What state do you live in that this is how it works? I have friends that work security and they would laugh at that post. Even if it was the law they wouldn't do it--not worth the risk. You're getting into false imprisonment territory and if not careful with wording maybe even impersonating. They only would put their hands on someone in self defense.

Of course, give some people an inch...

Edit: I'm talking about regular security not police moonlighting
I just explained better what I am talking about in my last post. It makes a huge difference that he was also a police officer. Security normally will not even risk detainment because the edge between detainment and custody is so fuzzy (especially with minors).
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:05 PM
 
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I just explained better what I am talking about in my last post. It makes a huge difference that he was also a police officer. Security normally will not even risk detainment because the edge between detainment and custody is so fuzzy (especially with minors).
Department store loss prevention security detains people very often.

Just saying.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:15 PM
 
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some think this girl should win because there is seemingly no reason for the cop to have stopped her. some think she should lose for what ever reason. but here area few questions that need answering before ANYONE can say one way or the other;

1: did one of the shops in the complain of shoplifters?

2: did she fit the description of said shoplifters?

3: were there any other crimes committed that she fit the description?

if the answer t these questions is yes, then the cop, even working as a private security guard, has every right to stop her and question her, until he is satisfied that she is not the person in question. and she has no right to leave until such time as he is done with her.

until we know far more facts than just the video, we can only speculate.
Speculation works both ways.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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As does someone that has virtually no facts about the incident and no idea of what transpired, but automatically faults an officer just because. But that's fairly common here on CD, it's the cops fault, no matter what actually happened.




Just seen cops use unnecessary and unwarranted force, lie about it, conspire with other cops to lie about it and charge their victim with crimes they didn't commit in order to cover up their own lawlessness too many times to believe any cop acted properly unless and until it can be verified through a non-cop source.


The general public is beginning to get the message that police are not to be trusted or believed.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Case in point...



Boo-hoo!
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:05 AM
 
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Speculation works both ways.
really? you wouldnt kid me about that would you?
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Just seen cops use unnecessary and unwarranted force, lie about it, conspire with other cops to lie about it and charge their victim with crimes they didn't commit in order to cover up their own lawlessness too many times to believe any cop acted properly unless and until it can be verified through a non-cop source.


The general public is beginning to get the message that police are not to be trusted or believed.

Welcome to the Police State, that has been hired to suppress the Free State.


I'm pretty positive, there is an amendment in the constitution that deals directly with this scenario.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Department store loss prevention security detains people very often.

Just saying.
As someone who actually used to do that job, let me tell you that they have to have damn good proof before they go detaining someone. If they do detain someone and they can't find the goods on the person, that person can, and more than likely will, sue the hell out of that store. It happens, and that is why we were told if you have any doubt at all about being able to recover the merchandise, if you lose sight of them for even a second, you do not detain.

Just saying.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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As someone who actually used to do that job, let me tell you that they have to have damn good proof before they go detaining someone. If they do detain someone and they can't find the goods on the person, that person can, and more than likely will, sue the hell out of that store. It happens, and that is why we were told if you have any doubt at all about being able to recover the merchandise, if you lose sight of them for even a second, you do not detain.

Just saying.
So, am I wrong?
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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I'll bet every time she opens her mouth she abuses the civil rights of anyone within earshot.
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