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Old 09-12-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I've given all I can
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But we're still on the payroll


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Old 09-12-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why make up facts?

Louisana doesn't tax groceries or prescription drugs.

Frequently Asked Questions - Louisiana Department of Revenue
Yep. And furthermore, while Dem-governed Chicago has a sales tax of 10.25%, the sales tax in the states he mentioned are...

MS: 7%
TN: 7%
OK: 4.5%
AL: 4%
LA: 5%
KS: 6.5%

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Old 09-12-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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They are still some of the most regressive tax systems in any state and have extreme inequality.
And the sales tax in Mississippi and Alabama that tax groceries were put in place when Democrats were governors and held the legislative branches.

The more money you spend buying things, the more taxes you pay.

Do you think the poor are buying more furniture, cars, televisions, toys, wine, clothes and stereos than the rich?
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Yep. And furthermore, while Dem-governed Chicago has a sales tax of 10.25%, the sales tax in the states he mentioned are...

MS: 7%
TN: 7%
OK: 4.5%
AL: 4%
LA: 5%
KS: 6.5%

Thank you, I was going to look up rates next.
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Old 09-12-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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Thank you, I was going to look up rates next.
The highest average sales taxes are in the south. Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, Louisana etc. Around 9% on average. Arkansas and Tennesse have 12% in some localities. Both Oklahoma and Alabama have a max sales tax rate of 11% (avg 9%). You just accepted what he said without taking into account local rates which adds alot to the overall rate.

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Old 09-12-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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The highest average sales taxes are in the south. Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, Louisana etc. Around 9% on average. Both Oklahoma and Alabama has a max sales rate of 11% (avg 9%). You just accepted what he said without taking into account local rates which adds alot to the overall rate.

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Cities with the highest sales tax (state and local):

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tool.../INF26299.html

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Chicago, Illinois: 10.25 percent (starting Jan 1, 2016)
Birmingham and Montgomery, Alabama: 10 percent
Seattle, Washington: 9.6 percent
Glendale, Arizona:, 9.5 percent
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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Cities with the highest sales tax (state and local):

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tool.../INF26299.html
The states and localities with the highest sales tax rates (and more importantly where this constitute the biggest revenue stream) are in the south. Its 9% on average in lots of southern states and some localities have 12%. These states and localities have the most regressive taxation.
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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The states and localities with the highest sales tax rates (and more importantly where this constitute the biggest revenue stream) are in the south. Its 9% on average in lots of southern states and some localities have 12%. These states and localities have the most regressive taxation.
Here is what you don't seem to understand, states use different means of taxation. Texas has no income tax but high property taxes. Looking at just sales doesn't provide a good understanding of taxes at all.

The thing that would be the best to look at is overall tax burden.

You can find it here:

CNN/Money: Big city taxes

You might notice southern states don't dominate the top of that list.
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Here is what you don't seem to understand, states use different means of taxation. Texas has no income tax but high property taxes. Looking at just sales doesn't provide a good understanding of taxes at all.

The thing that would be the best to look at is overall tax burden.

You can find it here:

CNN/Money: Big city taxes

You might notice southern states don't dominate the top of that list.
Totally irrelevant for what we are discussing here which is regressive vs progressive taxation. Which states generate most of their revenue through regressive taxation? Overwhelmingly southern states. States like Arkansas, Tennessee etc are extremely reliant on this revenue compared to other states. Do they have low inequality? NO!
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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Totally irrelevant for what we are discussing here which is regressive vs progressive taxation. Which states generate most of their revenue through regressive taxation? Overwhelmingly southern states. States like Arkansas, Tennessee etc are extremely reliant on this revenue compared to other states. Do they have low inequality? NO!
Not every tax should be progressive.

Even with the regressive sales tax, the people who earn more money generally pay more in taxes.
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