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Old 09-16-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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He has some explanation to do, so people won't take his word out of context

assimilation - if the definition is

the social process of absorbing one cultural group into harmony with another

Then yes, immigrants (or even visitors) should have to assimilate.
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Old 09-16-2016, 07:48 PM
 
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Don't care I any moves to a country they should embrace that culture of go home.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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If you want to see a city where there is no assimilation, take a look at Dearbornistan MI.
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Old 09-16-2016, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Japan
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London Mayor Sadiq Khan...
"One of the lessons from around the world is that a laissez faire or hands-off approach to social integration doesn't work. We need rules, institutions and support to enable people to integrate into cohesive communities and for the avoidance of doubt, I don't mean assimilation, I mean integration, and there's a difference,” Khan said. “People shouldn't have to drop their cultures and traditions when they arrive in our cities and countries."
What "rules, institutions and support" does he have in mind? I assume he's talking about rules to forcibly integrate America with unassimilated Muslims and institutions and support to make them like it.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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People from away who move into my area can't assimilate either, whether they come from Michigan, Illinois or Cincinnati. They can't drive, they litter, complain about what the area does not have, don't like the fundamentalist evangelical religious beliefs or overly conservative political views of the life long residents, don't support the local business community, complain about the farm down the road from their new subdivision and try to make the area into the place they just came from.

Point being that anyone who moves into a new area should not make themselves unwelcome no matter where they came from or where they go to, so this is not just a "muslim" issue.
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Old 09-16-2016, 09:57 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Muslims never assimilate. It is simply true.

Even in China, the Hui Muslims speak Chinese, have Chinese names...but they do not celebrate Chinese festivals and go to Mecca each year. They have been there for over 1000 years...
(P.S. I am not talking about the Turkic Muslims such as Uyghurs in China.)
Unfortunately, China and Russia are the countries that have best dealt with their Muslim populations. Radical Islam can only be defeated with brutal force like the Chinese are doing in Xinjiang and what the Russians have done in Chechnya. Yes, Russia had to fight 2 very long, brutal wars against the Chechens after the deadly suicide attacks launched from there. They totally laid waste to Chechnya, but now, the Chechens have accepted defeat and there is peace. That is the only kind of thing Muslims respect.

The pro-Palestine movement simply is prolonging the conflict. I think the solution to peace (well a temporary peace as the Bible says there will never be a permanent peace in the Middle East) is for the Israelis to completely annihilate Hamas regardless of civilian casualties, and to lay waste to Gaza the way the Russians laid waste to Chechnya.

The liberal approach to Muslims make the West look weak. They are demanding more and more now. In Minnesota Muslims are upset that the food kitchen doesn't have halal food.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Unfortunately, China and Russia are the countries that have best dealt with their Muslim populations. Radical Islam can only be defeated with brutal force like the Chinese are doing in Xinjiang and what the Russians have done in Chechnya. Yes, Russia had to fight 2 very long, brutal wars against the Chechens after the deadly suicide attacks launched from there. They totally laid waste to Chechnya, but now, the Chechens have accepted defeat and there is peace. That is the only kind of thing Muslims respect.

The pro-Palestine movement simply is prolonging the conflict. I think the solution to peace (well a temporary peace as the Bible says there will never be a permanent peace in the Middle East) is for the Israelis to completely annihilate Hamas regardless of civilian casualties, and to lay waste to Gaza the way the Russians laid waste to Chechnya.

The liberal approach to Muslims make the West look weak. They are demanding more and more now. In Minnesota Muslims are upset that the food kitchen doesn't have halal food.
Pretty much: History and the Dictators of the middle east have shown that Islam only learns by the sword.
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:14 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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What "rules, institutions and support" does he have in mind? I assume he's talking about rules to forcibly integrate America with unassimilated Muslims and institutions and support to make them like it.
Some traditions SHOULD be dropped when they come to the West. Like honor killings and arranged cousin marriages for example.....
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Some traditions SHOULD be dropped when they come to the West. Like honor killings and arranged cousin marriages for example.....
Fundamentalist Muslims should not come to the West at all. And neither should Westerners go and "lay waste" to their countries.
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Old 09-17-2016, 12:24 AM
 
Location: USA
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They shouldn't have to get on their knees and beg for acceptance from people living here, no.
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