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Old 09-22-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Corvette Ministries View Post
Nobody cares if white officers shoot white people.
Nobody cares if any color officer shoots white people. And most people don't even know since the media gives it a "Meh" when it happens. If it doesn't stir up ratings, it just doesn't matter.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The idea of a public police force is a relatively new concept. And it has shady origins. There are a few books out there that goes into this history. People got along for thousands of years without a public police force. So it's hilarious when people think that not having public police is such a radical idea, when history has shown us that people do just fine without one.
well, I am not against private police. Actually, I am for it. especially in some communities.

Privatization and removal of government as our protectors is a must. After looking into how the police system works, it’s beyond me why anyone would allow a monopoly on something as important as protection. It’s obvious that funding, customer service and accountability would improve across the board. That 100’s or 1,000’s of competing business would provide a better, safer service for us all.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hundreds of people killed by police; hundreds of thousands of people stopped by police but not killed.

The difference: first group didn't follow simple orders, second group did.
How do you know that?


Sure looks like the man just killed in Tulsa followed orders. Blacks are a smaller demographic but account for a large percentage of the killings, how do the statistics break down for unarmed non-threatening.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Nobody cares if any color officer shoots white people. And most people don't even know since the media gives it a "Meh" when it happens. If it doesn't stir up ratings, it just doesn't matter.
Couple of month ago, I read a book called White girl bleed a lot.

Pretty controversial book, but wow.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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well, I am not against private police. Actually, I am for it. especially in some communities.

Privatization and removal of government as our protectors is a must. After looking into how the police system works, it’s beyond me why anyone would allow a monopoly on something as important as protection. It’s obvious that funding, customer service and accountability would improve across the board. That 100’s or 1,000’s of competing business would provide a better, safer service for us all.
Glad you have finally woken up. You have always struck me as a sensible person.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Glad you have finally woken up. You have always struck me as a sensible person.
Actually, I just don't like unfair folks. Like those who make blanket statement, "ALL or most cops are racist and control freaks." Just stay fair and balanced. That is all.

Plus, we are all who we are through experiences. I can also say that I have been surrounded by cops, NONE is a bad person, I am sure you will not agree, but I think at this point, we can agree to disagree.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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Don't you love it? 173 blacks killed by police vs 511 blacks killed by blacks in Chicago alone. Who do the blacks choose to riot against? The police of course. I thought it might be the N word thing where blacks can call each other n*****s but white people can not. The pro lem with that theory is that black cops kill as many blacks as white cops.
Why don't whites get all keyed up and, burn, loot, steal, etc? Probably because they realize that type of behavior does not accomplish anything. I wonder what MLK would say about blacks rioting, stealing, looting, etc.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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The numbers provided by the OP covers all police shootings. It includes those victims who were actually committing a crime at the time they were killed. There are no stats for questionable shootings in which the victim was not committing a criminal act and/or was unarmed. These are the shootings in question and I have yet to see any hard data. If I was a betting man I would bet that minorities are killed at a higher rate but I have no stats to back this up. It is simply my opinion.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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I heard this today on NPR. I don't know if it was the same study. They said, it was thought (by somebody)that gov't stats were low so a team of journalists began looking at news reports. Anyway, blacks were ONE QUARTER of all shooting deaths. They actually said this on NPR. I wonder why it isn't more widely reported. Hmmm.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:09 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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There is a saying: Can't see the forest for the trees.

Well, that's what concentrating on the statistics of police killings is. It's missing the big picture, which is the generally inequitable and biased treatment of African-Americans throughout the entire criminal justice system. Unjustified police shootings are only the most spectacular and flagrant example of systemic bias, and how blacks get disproportionately worse treatment in everything--from encounters on the street, in courts, in prisons, in parole, and even as ex-cons.

Too many white folks (and some black ones) find it easier to dredge up crime statistics rather than see this bigger picture of longer sentences for the same crimes; white kids getting away with crimes that black men are arrested for (I've had white guys let off the hook in drug busts actually tell me this, and it'd be dumb to believe it's only happened twice in the history of the US); judges that give harsher sentences to blacks than to whites; prisons that mistreat and beat black prisoners; and yes, the shooting of unarmed black people or their questionable deaths in police custody.

BLM, and all the protestors who show up at demonstrations to support them are not protesting just police shootings, but the whole range of bias in the system, of which the killings are only the most shocking and visible part. This stuff has been going on in the US since long before video cameras caught the police beating Rodney King to a pulp in 1991. And yet history keeps repeating itself. That indicates that the problem is not defined just by what each individual cop did to each individual victim, though that certainly matters. It's defined by what the entire criminal justice system has done, and continues to do to Black Americans -- something anyone who actually bothers to listen to black voices will inevitably hear.

So please. Look at the forest and not just the trees.
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