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Old 03-22-2019, 01:47 PM
 
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Old 03-22-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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Not a fair comparison. The U.S. presidential election is scheduled to take place every four years.
Yes, that was my point. You're the one who brought up President Obama and the U.S. presidential elections.

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But the Brexit vote was only supposed to happen once. It's hardly fair for the Remain side to fuss and whine about a do-over, just because they don't like the outcome of the first one.
If you make a decision, and then realize it's a bad decision, do you just continue on your original path anyway? Because, oh, well, you made a bad decision. Got to continue down the bad path and see it through, even though the option to change your mind and reverse course exists. That is a supremely stupid position to take.

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And don't you think you're overblowing the issue just a little bit? I'm not in England, but still, I haven't been hearing about any chaos, other than in Parliament. And that seems to be mainly due to the Remainers in that body who are trying desperately to thwart the will of the democratically expressed will of the majority, without looking like they're doing so.
Parliament is the whole show right now. And they have absolutely no idea what the hell they're doing. There is no one who can dispute that with a straight face. They are leading the country off a cliff, but you don't believe the people who live there should have a say in if they want to go over or not?

Let's see what the actual will of the people is right now, before they take this irreversible plunge. In light of the cluster**** this has turned into, what would be so terrible about that?

Well, to the leavers it would be terrible, because they would most likely lose a second vote, which they're well aware of. So yeah, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead before anyone can stop them. And then like Boris, they will all run away and deny responsibility for what follows.
 
Old 03-22-2019, 02:06 PM
 
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It's a bit like watching a friend marry someone who has done nothing but lie.

Your friend soldiers on, after all all the caterer have been paid, invites sent out, ...

Made the decision two years ago go get married. Why back out now just because it looks like it will be a disaster?
 
Old 03-22-2019, 02:09 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Obama was a very real part of BRexit. He was asked by Cameron to make a speech to the British to scare them to vote against it. This was the result....
Obama infuriates the Brits as he threatens to send UK 'to the back of the queue' if they vote to leave the European Union
So what I posted is very relevant since the same nonsense is being spewed up again today. You are posting about Trump Supporters i.e. simple TDS. Has nothing to do with this topic.
And Trump - who's called himself "Mr Brexit" - ISN"T?


Heck he BRAGS that he gave Brexit advice to Theresa May.


Face it. Donald Trump and the Brexit folks are two peas in a pod.

Ken

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Old 03-22-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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.....Trump.....Donald Trump ........
LOL.



TDS ain't pretty.
 
Old 03-22-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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From the BBC:
The DUP threw everything including the kitchen sink at May today. It's clear they will never vote for the May/UK deal. And they are infuriated at what has happened this week.

IMO, there's no precedent for what is happening now. And now that the EU has reversed itself (not surprising) and started to extend the dates, this could go on for a very long time. There's no longer any sort of hard stop out there. Both sides have removed it.

i.e. Article 50 is still in force, but there is no longer a hard, we can't cross it deadline. Politicians in the EU and the UK have shown their utter contempt for what the people were promised and which they voted for. It will go down as one of the biggest betrayals in political history.
 
Old 03-22-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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LOL.



TDS ain't pretty.
Yeah, Trump supporters are pretty deranged alright.

Ken
 
Old 03-22-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The DUP threw everything including the kitchen sink at May today. It's clear they will never vote for the May/UK deal. And they are infuriated at what has happened this week.

IMO, there's no precedent for what is happening now. And now that the EU has reversed itself (not surprising) and started to extend the dates, this could go on for a very long time. There's no longer any sort of hard stop out there. Both sides have removed it.

i.e. Article 50 is still in force, but there is no longer a hard, we can't cross it deadline. Politicians in the EU and the UK have shown their utter contempt for what the people were promised and which they voted for. It will go down as one of the biggest betrayals in political history.
Just more evidence that if you don't THINK THINGS THROUGH before you vote for something, you'll end up with a MESS. Folks in the UK voted for Brexit with no plan whatsoever for HOW to actually MAKE IT HAPPEN - and we are seeing the results.
Pretty predictable actually.

Ken
 
Old 03-22-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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The DUP threw everything including the kitchen sink at May today. It's clear they will never vote for the May/UK deal. And they are infuriated at what has happened this week.

IMO, there's no precedent for what is happening now. And now that the EU has reversed itself (not surprising) and started to extend the dates, this could go on for a very long time. There's no longer any sort of hard stop out there. Both sides have removed it.

i.e. Article 50 is still in force, but there is no longer a hard, we can't cross it deadline. Politicians in the EU and the UK have shown their utter contempt for what the people were promised and which they voted for. It will go down as one of the biggest betrayals in political history.
Next week is going to be interesting. None of the votes appear likely to pass, except for the unconditional 2-week extension to April 12. Not one. But the default is still exiting the EU on April 12, 2019 with no deal. So if nothing passes, as expected, then that is what will happen.

21 days to go. Tick tock.
 
Old 03-22-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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Next week is going to be interesting. None of the votes appear likely to pass, except for the unconditional 2-week extension to April 12. Not one. But the default is still exiting the EU on April 12, 2019 with no deal. So if nothing passes, as expected, then that is what will happen.

21 days to go. Tick tock.
That's just it. The EU said as late as yesterday morning, they would not grant an unconditional extension. Then they turned around and did just that.

There's no longer any hard exit time to this. They can just keep changing the rules day after day now that they have tossed out the time limit as stated in the Lisbon Treaty.
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