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Old 03-04-2019, 06:44 PM
 
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Looks like that in the event of no-deal Brexit, which seems increasingly likely, Britain would follow all EU food and farming regulations for the next nine months.

This would impact trade negotiations with the U.S. as U.S. is insisting on dropping such regulations to allow American GMO, hormone-grown, ... exports into the UK.

Japan and South Korea are calling for concessions as well.

Despite the optimism about how nations all over the world would be lining up to make favorable trade deals with the post-EU U.K., there does seem to be some problems arising in this regard.

But not to worry, I'm sure this will all be straightened out in the next 27 days.

Hey, who doesn't like chlorine-washed chicken and hormone beef?

 
Old 03-04-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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Hey, who doesn't like chlorine-washed chicken and hormone beef?
I like to sprinkle mine with sodium choride granuals.
 
Old 03-04-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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So I watched May's update on BRexit delivered to parliment last week. It's like they all know it's going to be a no-deal, but none will actually say it. It's absolutely fascinating to watch such a spectacle take place.
 
Old 03-04-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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So I watched May's update on BRexit delivered to parliment last week. It's like they all know it's going to be a no-deal, but none will actually say it. It's absolutely fascinating to watch such a spectacle take place.
It is interesting to us as we watch from afar, but it seems like all the turmoil is starting to make some of our British posters a little bit twitchy.
 
Old 03-04-2019, 09:11 PM
 
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It is interesting to us as we watch from afar, but it seems like all the turmoil is starting to make some of our British posters a little bit twitchy.
Had a discussion with my niece who is a young English MD studying for her phD in Scandinavia. She is also a US citizen and can pass for one...did a good part of her undergraduate education in Boston area.

She thought the whole thing somewhat silly. And she thought a good possibility it would all end up going away.

She of course has already partially abandoned Britain for Scandinavia. Now actually speaks a Nordic language well enough to practice medicine in it. And she is well on her way to scandinavian citizenship.

Interesting views on being British from that behaviour.
 
Old 03-05-2019, 02:16 AM
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It is interesting to us as we watch from afar, but it seems like all the turmoil is starting to make some of our British posters a little bit twitchy.
Negotiations are on-going, and it's pointless jumping to any conclusions until what has been negotiated is actually stated.

Negotiations often go down to the wire.
 
Old 03-05-2019, 06:30 AM
 
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Hey, who doesn't like chlorine-washed chicken and hormone beef?
U.S. subsidized, chlorine-washed chickens, hormone beef, ...

Looks like UK is going to have to decide between EU and US with in trade agreements regarding agricultural imports.
 
Old 03-05-2019, 07:29 AM
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U.S. subsidized, chlorine-washed chickens, hormone beef, ...

Looks like UK is going to have to decide between EU and US with in trade agreements regarding agricultural imports.
Actually we already get a lot of chicken from Thailand a meat from across he world including New Zealand Lamb. The UK can source food from wherever it wishes and can maintain the same standards as the EU.

Fast food chicken arrives frozen on the slow boat - Telegraph

Beef and Lamb Matters: Why the UK imports lamb from New Zealand

The US might be allowed to import more meat in to the UK however only on the premise that the meat is hormone free and meats hygiene standards.

The EU lets the US import hormone free meat already, however there is a quota (maximum) which is allowed. The UK could simply allow more such US hormone free meat to be imported, as the US does produce good quality hormone free meat and will produce more without the strict EU quotas in place.

Commission proposes to redistribute beef quota to please the US

As for chlorinated food lets get some facts right -

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It's not consuming chlorine itself that the EU is worried about - in fact in 2005 the European Food Safety Authority said that "exposure to chlorite residues arising from treated poultry carcasses would be of no safety concern".

Chlorine-rinsed bagged salads are common in the UK and other countries in the EU. But the EU believes that relying on a chlorine rinse at the end of the meat production process could be a way of compensating for poor hygiene standards - such as dirty or crowded abattoirs.

Chlorinated chicken: How safe is it? - BBC News




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Old 03-05-2019, 10:49 AM
 
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Negotiations are on-going, and it's pointless jumping to any conclusions until what has been negotiated is actually stated.

Negotiations often go down to the wire.
I agree. This is changing rapidly right now and what the media is producing is not very solid at all.

It appears to me from reading between the lines and across different perspectives that the EU is not showing any signs of budging from the original treaty and that they are intent on appearing as if they are ready to go all in on insisting that it is "our way or the highway," even if that causes enormous financial harm and unnecessary personal suffering to their own people.

This is not rational and it is irresponsible, in my view. It still seems to me that if at the last moment they really believe the UK will leave with no deal rather than capitulate, they will very possibly yield. If they do not, they lose so much and it is just not necessary.

Anyway, if you believe the press right now, Theresa May is not going to be able to get the kind of substantial changes and limitations to the backstop that the Brady Agreement requires, which means her deal will fail to pass on March 12.

The best thing that could happen is for the Parliament to vote to go with a no deal Brexit on March 13, but that would require a level if testicular fortitude that this group does not seem to have. So that vote appears likely to fail as well.

As far as the extension vote on March 14, which will apparently only be held if the two previous votes mention above fail to pass, the EU has stated that no such extension will be granted by them unless it is for a specific purpose, such as working through the details of a deal that has been agreed to or to prepare for a second referendum. Since none of these requirements will apparently be met at this point, there will be no extension, regardless of whether the UK Parliament votes for an extension or not, which it seems likely that they will.

So if all of that happens, as we are currently being told by the press, then the UK exits the EU on March 29, with no deal. And that would be victory.

But as you say, we will see.
 
Old 03-05-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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So if all of that happens, as we are currently being told by the press, then the UK exits the EU on March 29, with no deal. And that would be victory.

But as you say, we will see.
A no deal brexit is abject failure by any measure.
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