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The best revolution we can hope for is one that is sanctioned by the Constitution of the United States.
That is to call for a "Convention of States"
I believe that 32 states have to pass the resolution. They are at 13 or 14 now but the momentum is building.
The Convention of States can make amendments to the Constitution and place great limits on the federal government.
I think that is our best bet.
Revolution is fully sanctioned under the Constitution and even spelled out for all to see, because of past events that led to revolution with Great Britain. It is the one Amendment in the Bill of Rights, the government has attacked more than any other.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Individual States; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Congress, President and the Supreme Court has a long history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these Individual States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Behold, the beauty of the 2nd Amendment. The direct call to eliminate tyranny over Liberty as the last stand, when the government becomes tyrannical and micro managing of the people running every aspect of their lives and is no resemblance of a Free State, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We probably should split the country so the right wing can have their little country and leave the rest of us alone. They can have their call to prayer on Sunday and the Ten Commandments in every classroom and courtroom.
To say that every GOP voter is religious would be a HUGE mistake.
Look at what happened in California... it was the religious BLACKS and LATINOS who vote Dem that voted down Prop 8 (same sex marriage rights) the most.
"officially recognized as being trained to perform a particular job; certified."
By this standard, what I said is not a lie or dishonest or a play on words. Quit trying to act like you didn't make a mistake. Jesus Christ... a person I can only assume you do not want to emulate since he was a humble guy.
I explained my disagreement with Trump. If you want address my point on this, I won't address yours.
Yes, one has to meet the qualifications and they are specific... and they are again??
It is not your terms of qualifications. It is what it says they are, unless you are rewriting them yourself, for this discussion
On to the different subject of Capitalism vs Socialism. This can be seen in the Roman Empire, they had many social programs for the poor. The British Empire, a monarchy, had implemented social programs in the states before 1776. Socialism is needed and will continue to be present weather you like it or not, as almost all don't want the America of the late 19th century. The on going battle today is do we have too much socialism.
Many people, in fact most I believe, fail to recognize how they, themselves, have been the target of thought control and had their views shaped by the "powers that be". That has happened with the word "socialism." What you are referring to here is not socialism. It is rather social programs in the context of capitalism. Social programs have always to one extent or another been part of capitalism. Such programs are necessary to keep people from rebelling and discarding capitalism entirely. So we are bought off with public education, the post office, Social Security, Medicare, fire departments, police departments, OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, welfare, food stamps, highway departments, and on and on and on.
"Socialism" means a government dedicated to worker control.
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I have no idea how people can deny the ties of communism and extreme socialism, have you never read a book in your life? The idea is to have the right balance of socialism and capitalism to obtain the maximum balance of freedom and safety. With that said, I feel we are tipping the scales with every election, throwing the balance off completely. By the way, the USSR was a socialist republic, so they can exist together.
-for a short time. The effort to establish socialism failed there as it also did in China. Socialism did not come with a blueprint. The means of establishing it and what it will look like is being worked out at this moment. It is in it's initial and experimental stage. And early failure is expected until methods and strategies are worked out.
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Next, the segregation of conservatism and liberal and the constitution. Conservatives have the mindset to have things fix and unchanged.
"America " Dont make yourself more than willing for foreign mastery !!!
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It wasn't even this bad and the government not near as corrupt as today, just before the 1861 Split... Not revolution, but a split.
I see this time that's coming, a full on assault on the elite, that feel we are just peasants.
I know I am not alone. Communism will be run out of this nation, one way or the other and the Constitution restored to its full glory, for the individual, not destroyed for the socialist collective groups.
Indeed ... Keep on with the race insanity ... KEEP ON INJURING AND KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE ! ... Keep on destroying and looting private and public property ... Keep on interfering with law enforcement in the performance of their duties to protect and serve the public ... Keep on hating America and the proud and loyal citizenry that holds it all together .... Keep on hating the very military services that are doing their best to barely keep the enemy from the gates ... Keep on burning the American Flag ... and hating the Christian folk who only want the best for this beloved Republic ... Keep on voting in the weakest and most inept among us to high political leadership positions ... Keep on allowing the clueless politicians to grovel and apologize for America around the world ... Keep on abusing illegal drugs and dying of O.D. and addiction before the age of twenty .... Keep on brainwashing young high school and college minds with a hatred of America and of their own race ... Keep on preaching the idiocy of males and females using the same bathrooms ... Keep on encouraging cross dressing and allowing the sexes to act out which one they would ,prefer to act out daily at public schools ... Keep on encouraging lawlessness and allowing no controls over illegal immigration ... Keep on .... Just keep on ... until one day we all wake up one morning to a conquered nation ... an America with a foreign conqueror (Master) in charge ... A conquered who could care less about what race you are or what sex you might be ... That will provide swift education about the fact that you are a conquered race ... We should all be well aware of the way the Axis powers during WW2 treated the people of their conquered lands ... or the Bataan Death March ... or The Nazi Death Camps ! ... Keep on going! ... That's Right ... Hand Em The Damn Keys !!! ... Old Sgt. Lamar Says So !
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Reason: spellin stuff y'all !
How is what I posted not true? You know darned well it is.
Crackpots don't know they are crackpots and that their ideas are crackpot ideas. That is about 100%.
But here, let's do this.
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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
That is not applicable to socialist society. It applies to communist society.
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Does this country not forcibly take from some to give to others?
Of course. All capitalist economies do and always have and always will. That doesn't make them communist. It makes them pragmatic and self-protective.
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And isn't it also true that not every able-bodied worker under the retirement age of 65+ is expected to contribute proportionally? Both are forms of communism, so yes, we DO have communism in this country.
They are not "forms of communism". They are remote similarities. If you were to eliminate each and every social program and have only private business structures running everything based on voluntary interest in them wanting to run things, the whole nation would crash and explode in rebellion and violent revolution within a very short time.
Crackpots don't know they are crackpots and that their ideas are crackpot ideas. That is about 100%.
But here, let's do this.
That is not applicable to socialist society. It applies to communist society.
Of course. All capitalist economies do and always have and always will. That doesn't make them communist. It makes them pragmatic and self-protective.
They are not "forms of communism". They are remote similarities. If you were to eliminate each and every social program and have only private business structures running everything based on voluntary interest in them wanting to run things, the whole nation would crash and explode in rebellion and violent revolution within a very short time.
Deny - Demonize - Deflect..... You got a trifecta there! Good work
Crackpots don't know they are crackpots and that their ideas are crackpot ideas. That is about 100%.
But here, let's do this.
That is not applicable to socialist society. It applies to communist society.
Of course. All capitalist economies do and always have and always will. That doesn't make them communist. It makes them pragmatic and self-protective.
They are not "forms of communism". They are remote similarities. If you were to eliminate each and every social program and have only private business structures running everything based on voluntary interest in them wanting to run things, the whole nation would crash and explode in rebellion and violent revolution within a very short time.
Neither do stoned people... See where the current ideas are headed?
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You know darned well it is. 
"America " Dont make yourself more than willing for foreign mastery !!!
See where the current ideas are headed?
