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Old 09-30-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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Yeah just like those Spanish Friars ....

The last thing I want is for a leftest to care about me, and try to mold me , which is ultimately to rob and enslave me. Liberals want to be in my group so that they can take my stuff or enslave me. The Conservatives want to do the same, only the direct transfer payment is just too obvious. They prefer to use a private front with the the coercion of the state being them to take my stuff.

Well at least the Conservative are more Nazi like thank goodness. Since they don't believe in the global collective, I might be able to move. Better to have a choice of national socialist states then to only have the global super state.
I don't think liberals want to be in your group at all.

And while I care about you, I have no interest in molding you, robbing you or enslaving you.

Wish you luck with whatever national socialist state you choose.

 
Old 09-30-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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I don't think liberals want to be in your group at all.

And while I care about you, I have no interest in molding you, robbing you or enslaving you.

Wish you luck with whatever national socialist state you choose.

Oh we can agree on that. Liberals would like me to come out of their reeducation camps to join them.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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**** your feelings!
Dealing with this on an emotional level, reduces the thought and ideas to fix it.
That is my objection to a lot of liberal/progressive positions. They're based on emotion, not on rational logic.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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That is my objection to a lot of liberal/progressive positions. They're based on emotion, not on rational logic.
You soulless monsters! ..... that I care about.....
 
Old 09-30-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You soulless monsters! ..... that I care about.....
Well... Emotions-led "feelings" lead to a LOT of undesirable consequences, including crimes of passion: murder.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Nothing emotional about your post.
Like it is suppose to be. Nice and rational. If it deserves discussion, that is you to those that see fault.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8chEy9rwL4
 
Old 09-30-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Well... Emotions-led "feelings" lead to a LOT of undesirable consequences, including crimes of passion: murder.
Again , just by caring is a form of attachment. I realize emoting Liberals just try to follow their instincts to create attachments and socialize. Its an unspecific , strategic means of problems solving. That's why "come together" is so appealing to them. They just can't understand those that find no comfort in group think. Critical thinking is too disruptive. Conservatives of course make the mistake of over simplicity in their problem solving and ignore the social disruption entirely. Why not import a million Mexicans to save a few bucks?

See the irony? One thinks we can be all one and the other does not even give a crap. Both come to the same conclusion that its good to "bring em in".

That is what the Alt-right seems to aim for by my observation. They realize that efficiency will mean little if it creates so much disharmony the culture dissolves into chaos. They want to create durable social units that are not constantly wary of too much objectivism disrupting social harmony. "White criminals" can be dealt with harshly because an objective criminal is not a threat to white harmony. On the other hand black criminality needs to take into account social cohesion. The cultural wedge destroys objectivity. The Alt-right certainly see the future of more "pretty lies" to hold the society intact. They clearly don't like it.



This by no means accounts for all Liberals. They have their intellectual corp. They are the usual intellectual that can "easily out maneuver old conservative ways". Its quite similar to the arrogating Europeans not bothering with those Amerindian ways of nixtamalization of the corn to create a nice bout of Pellagra. Education without experience is worse than experience alone.

If anything I find them even more repulsive. They completely misjudge the human intellect. They believe humans are inventive. They think human progress is the result of smart people thinking of new things. This is not the case. The human intellect is adapted to discovery. Out of a hundred ideas, we can very efficiently discover the best one. That is typically how it works. If my assertion is true, imagine the threat that central planning is. This is also why they are likely blind to selective pressure. They are ignorant of this process in social evolution , and so they are also ignorant of how much it can play out in other ways including humanity itself.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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I decided to read about this for myself. I have no reason to respect such an ideology. This is why. Anti-semitism, white supremacy, white nationalism, those are a big part of the ideology. Racism is a big driver of it.

I do not see myself as better than anyone else based on race. I judge myself based on what I do. I do not support anti-semitism. Look where that went. White nationalism and Black nationalism are both farces. Race and nation aren't the same thing. I, a Black American, have more in common with an Irish-American from Ohio than I do with a Kenyan from Kenya. Why? I was born here, raised here, I'm American.

I don't see any benefits to Alt-right.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 01:56 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I decided to read about this for myself. I have no reason to respect such an ideology. This is why. Anti-semitism, white supremacy, white nationalism, those are a big part of the ideology. Racism is a big driver of it.

I do not see myself as better than anyone else based on race. I judge myself based on what I do. I do not support anti-semitism. Look where that went. White nationalism and Black nationalism are both farces. Race and nation aren't the same thing. I, a Black American, have more in common with an Irish-American from Ohio than I do with a Kenyan from Kenya. Why? I was born here, raised here, I'm American.

I don't see any benefits to Alt-right.

The alt-right includes the non-white guys..... It is the old white guys that are the establishment.
 
Old 09-30-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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The alt-right includes the non-white guys..... It is the old white guys that are the establishment.
I don't trust it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

I have to ask what I have to gain from it.
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