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For those who would like to NOT deal with cancers. I'm banking on Iodine dosing and my OPC's...so far I'm good and 78. Many cancer research centers are using OPC's in their research: city of hope, may and many others.
My mother is 87, has taken ZERO Iodine or OPCs in her life, is and always has been cancer free. And I know many, many like her. How is that possible? Luck? Good genetics? If Iodine/OPCs are key in avoiding cancer, how is it that people who don't take them avoid cancer?
She has been drinking coffee her entire life so maybe it's that coffee gives one immunity to cancer. Or maybe it's the vodka......
Some people are just fortunate. I have a bridge friend who is 83 and smokes/drinks coffee all day and as far as I know cancer free and no supplements. But horrible blue skin from poor circulation.
I'm happy to have the info today that we have and a couple drops of iodine daily make me feel comfortable.
My dad drank all his life and did end up with leukemia at his end in his mid 90's. Maybe the alcohol killed the nasty cancer cells. Don't know. I don't drink alcohol. As I've heard for many years if something else doesn't kill you cancer will.
I just lost a friend who killed both herself and her daughter because of fearing the chemo that would save their lives. She had long believed in supplements and still developed stage III cancer at 26 years old. A year later, her infant who had not been vaxxed was diagnosed with cancer and died a mere 8 months later. Said friend has now relapsed and "treated" her still *very* curable cancer with Chinese "medicine."
She has turned to conventional medicine, but it's too late. Now the family is hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt from chasing snake oil, she is in hospice, and she will pass at the ripe old age of 32 despite all the lies she believed about alkalizing her body, taking dubious supplements, and treating chemo as "toxic."
Meanwhile, I had the same type of cancer as she did but far more advanced and I am considered cured. And I meet young adults who take supplements, run marathons, etc. every single day who are diagnosed with cancer in their teens, 20s, and 30s.
So honey, please. Nope.
I hope your daughter has put you out like a dumpster fire for how you speak about her husband.
It's all choice, I have 2 friends treating BC with their alternatives and so far so good. Some make it with or without the drugs and many don't. Choice.
My mother is 87, has taken ZERO Iodine or OPCs in her life, is and always has been cancer free. And I know many, many like her. How is that possible? Luck? Good genetics? If Iodine/OPCs are key in avoiding cancer, how is it that people who don't take them avoid cancer?
She has been drinking coffee her entire life so maybe it's that coffee gives one immunity to cancer. Or maybe it's the vodka......
Probably the vodka! J/K! My MIL is 97, never took any of that stuff, did take care of herself well-flu shots, pnuemonia shot, kept up with her paps and so on. Very little drinking, almost none, really. Go figure. She comes from a family of 7 kids and at least 3 and I think more probably 4 have had colon cancer but she escaped it.
If you know so little about "chemicals" to not know that dihydrogen monoxide means H2O (as a reminder, the CHEMICAL value of water), then why are you talking about chemicals or medical issues at all?
I don't believe in "articles," I believe in studies. Given how you fell for the fake article hook, line, and sinker, do you think perhaps you might not be the most well-informed person to articulate this view?
I just forgot. My short term memory is not as good as my long term memory so scientific words aren't stored as much as psychology words (like the list of fallacies) and my experiences. Just because I'm not as passionate about science doesn't mean I'm not passionate about improving my health. Why am I talking about medical issues? Because I have experienced them and I'm angry that medicine has contributed to compromising my health. I thought that was obvious.
How do you know the studies aren't fake or misinterpreted? Do you believe everything that doctors/scientists tell you? Unless you have participated in them, it is possible that they are not true. Since the article was fake, it just proves that you can't believe something just because it is written. There's a study for example that astrology is a complete joke but I've seen things in it that prove otherwise.
Okay so you lost a friend but that doesn't prove that everyone needs regular medicine...all it proves is that she needed it. That is my qualm about pharmaceutical/medical industry. They treat everyone the same and we're not all built the same. Doctors don't live inside your head/body so that's why I think it's so important to consider that maybe you don't need it and only use medication as a last resort. I'm not saying that everyone on this thread doesn't already do that but I have seen so many people imply that they haven't questioned the medication. They don't make their own choices. The doctor may go to school to study the human body but they do not know mine so to assume that I need PPI's for my gastritis is ridiculous esp when I told him I tried and it made it worse. If there was a real life Dr. House I'd believe more in western medicine because his goal was to fix the patient before they left the hospital. Most of them were a one time treatment. But as far as I've seen no one is like that they put you on a regular basis treatment instead. At least with sups I don't have to worry about withdrawal if I stop taking them.
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I carry my bottle of Fiji everywhere I go. In a restaurant I take out my bottle of Fiji, refuse the tap water. Some restaurants filter out water but MOST filters do not filter out fluorides. A whole other scam/fraud against the people.
Fiji contains fluoride: 0.23 milligrams per liter, from the Fiji site:
I just forgot. My short term memory is not as good as my long term memory so scientific words aren't stored as much as psychology words (like the list of fallacies) and my experiences. Just because I'm not as passionate about science doesn't mean I'm not passionate about improving my health. Why am I talking about medical issues? Because I have experienced them and I'm angry that medicine has contributed to compromising my health. I thought that was obvious.
How do you know the studies aren't fake or misinterpreted? Do you believe everything that doctors/scientists tell you? Unless you have participated in them, it is possible that they are not true. Since the article was fake, it just proves that you can't believe something just because it is written. There's a study for example that astrology is a complete joke but I've seen things in it that prove otherwise.
Okay so you lost a friend but that doesn't prove that everyone needs regular medicine...all it proves is that she needed it. That is my qualm about pharmaceutical/medical industry. They treat everyone the same and we're not all built the same. Doctors don't live inside your head/body so that's why I think it's so important to consider that maybe you don't need it and only use medication as a last resort. I'm not saying that everyone on this thread doesn't already do that but I have seen so many people imply that they haven't questioned the medication. They don't make their own choices. The doctor may go to school to study the human body but they do not know mine so to assume that I need PPI's for my gastritis is ridiculous esp when I told him I tried and it made it worse. If there was a real life Dr. House I'd believe more in western medicine because his goal was to fix the patient before they left the hospital. Most of them were a one time treatment. But as far as I've seen no one is like that they put you on a regular basis treatment instead. At least with sups I don't have to worry about withdrawal if I stop taking them.
Human bodies are more alike than different. If your knowledge base about science is defective, perhaps it would behoove you to correct that deficiency before commenting on science topics.
Perhaps the problem with medicine and your health lies not so much with medicine but your approach to it. Something tells me you are unlikely to follow through with a recommended treatment for very long. If you still have gastritis have you ever been tested for helicobacter pylori? If you had it, did you complete the entire course of treatment for it? Do you have gastritis or do you have reflux, which causes esophagitis? If you have reflux, are you overweight?
If you continue to have symptoms of gastritis despite your "alternative" treatment and supplements it hardly seems fair to blame medicine for "compromising your health" since what you are now doing is not working either.
Dr. House is a fictional character. There are few things that medicine can fix in the space of an hour. It's like those TV shows that do a complete home remodel in sixty minutes. What is seen on the show did not happen in an hour of real time.
Despite what the alternative medicine world would have you believe, deliberate fraud in medicine is not common. Medicine does not make recommendations based on one study. Findings need to be replicated, and when studies repeatedly produce similar findings we can be confident that the findings are valid.
Human bodies are more alike than different. If your knowledge base about science is defective, perhaps it would behoove you to correct that deficiency before commenting on science topics.
Perhaps the problem with medicine and your health lies not so much with medicine but your approach to it. Something tells me you are unlikely to follow through with a recommended treatment for very long. If you still have gastritis have you ever been tested for helicobacter pylori? If you had it, did you complete the entire course of treatment for it? Do you have gastritis or do you have reflux, which causes esophagitis? If you have reflux, are you overweight?
If you continue to have symptoms of gastritis despite your "alternative" treatment and supplements it hardly seems fair to blame medicine for "compromising your health" since what you are now doing is not working either.
Then explain why some people get reactions to medicines and some don't if they're more alike.
Yes they said I had no infection and I took it the next time for 7 days like he said to try and it made my stomach feel worse. Not only that when I stopped taking it the withdrawal was even worse and that's only 7 days!!! Imagine if I had taken the full dosage. I shudder to think how long/intense the withdrawal would be then. I have gastritis apparently because they did an endoscopy and that's what they diagnosed me as. I also had esophagitis but since in the past I took marshmallow root it is now gone. I didn't take any prescription for it. I didn't change my diet..just the root.
Actually it is because since you're so fond of research, you will read that one of the causes of gastritis is NSAID's. It also makes sense that gastritis can be caused by medication because it is a foreign substance so of course the body's going to fight it. Even if you were right that medication and herbs were the same thing, the mind is very powerful and the mind would reject substances it doesn't believe in so my stomach will flare up as a result. The mind controls all. You have to also consider my special mentality. I'm sure that is a contributor.
Plus I stopped taking my herbs for a while because of lack of money so naturally the gastritis is not going to get better but it hasn't got any worse than usual. It also helps that I have a IUD and I know that even though I'm using non hormonal it is still something my body is going to fight for a while so my stomach might be still flaring up cuz of that too because before I got it put in I didn't have much cramping there for a while. Also I am still a chronic stresser and still not very good with my diet. The herbs can only do so much considering that.
I'm also not just talking about the gastritis. I am talking about in general medicines have caused me problems. When I got sick enough that I was desperate to go into the hospital they had given me a pill to prevent me from throwing up and it made it impossible to sleep. I kept jolting up every time I tried to sleep. Yes in that case my sickness went away but I often wonder if I could have just went without because when I was sick before I just rested and drank fluids and it went away. I think just panicking made it seem more severe. My mom also used to give me aspirin every time I got a headache and I'd still get chronic headaches. Since ditching aspirin I don't get headaches much anymore..only when the allergies act up mainly.
I know it's not a severe problem but I'm still constantly thinking about the discomfort in my vag caused by the antibiotics/antifungal.
I also mentioned earlier in this thread about the "treatments" that the foot doctor gave me. It is not a chemical but it is similar to regular drugs in the way that you are dependent on it.
I'm vain about my weight so up until a week or two ago, I would check it multiple times a day (after I exercised, before I exercised, when I got up and before I went to bed). Since the gastritis my stomach is said to only be a few inches above healthy weight. Lately I've got it down to 32 inches but ever since I got the IUD my stomach has looked more bloated than before so I'm confused about that because I feel like 32 is a normal weight for my height. At least that's what all the websites with scales tell me but maybe they are wrong? Since as I said I can't believe something just becaues it's written. I've only had the IUD for a few weeks though. My BMI has also always been normal.
One important note: I was those few inches above before taking the rhodiola. You could say that it was the exercise but I've stopped exercising as much but still take that every now and then and my weight stays the same. Again my diet hasn't really changed and I certainly feel less stressed too which speaks volumes when I'm a pessimist.
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Dr. House is a fictional character.
No..really but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't take his approach. Few doctors in my experience really work hard to find causes of illnesses/pain. They are quick to just write a script and not consider all the conditions together. Now for a western society doctor, I do like my doctor but he's just a family practitioner so he can only do so much. Plus he's extremely busy a lot of the time. Specialists..you have to take who they have so for example as a result I'm stuck with constant discomfort in my vag. Maybe if they took more time to diagnose they'd realize that the cream is not going to help.
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Then explain why some people get reactions to medicines and some don't if they're more alike.
Yes they said I had no infection and I took it the next time for 7 days like he said to try and it made my stomach feel worse. Not only that when I stopped taking it the withdrawal was even worse and that's only 7 days!!! Imagine if I had taken the full dosage. I shudder to think the withdrawal would be then. I have gastritis apparently because they did an endoscopy and that's what they diagnosed me as. I also had esophagitis but since in the past I took marshmallow root it is now gone. I didn't take any prescription for it. I didn't change my diet..just the root.
Actually it is because since you're so fond of research, you will read that one of the causes of gastritis is NSAID's. It also makes sense that gastritis can be caused by medication because it is a foreign substance so of course the body's going to fight it. Even if you were right that medication and herbs were the same thing, the mind is very powerful and the mind would reject substances it doesn't believe in so my stomach will flare up as a result. The mind controls all. You have to also consider my special mentality. I'm sure that is a contributor.
Plus I stopped taking my herbs for a while because of lack of money so naturally the gastritis is not going to get better but it hasn't got any worse than usual. It also helps that I have a IUD and I know that even though I'm using non hormonal it is still something my body is going to fight for a while so my stomach might be still flaring up cuz of that too because before I got it put in I didn't have much cramping there for a while. Also I am still a chronic stresser and still not very good with my diet. The herbs can only do so much considering that.
I'm also not just talking about the gastritis. I am talking about in general medicines have caused me problems. When I got sick enough that I was desperate to go into the hospital they had given me a pill to prevent me from throwing up and it made it impossible to sleep. I kept jolting up every time I tried to sleep. Yes in that case my sickness went away but I often wonder if I could have just went without because when I was sick before I just rested and drank fluids and it went away. I think just panicking made it seem more severe. My mom also used to give me aspirin every time I got a headache and I'd still get chronic headaches. Since ditching aspirin I don't get headaches much anymore..only when the allergies act up mainly.
I know it's not a severe problem but I'm still constantly thinking about the discomfort in my vag caused by the antibiotics/antifungal.
I also mentioned earlier in this thread about the "treatments" that the foot doctor gave me. It is not a chemical but it is similar to regular drugs in the way that you are dependent on it.
I'm vain about my weight so up until a week or two ago, I would check it multiple times a day (after I exercised, before I exercised, when I got up and before I went to bed). Since the gastritis my stomach is said to only be a few inches above healthy weight. Lately I've got it down to 32 inches but ever since I got the IUD my stomach has looked more bloated than before so I'm confused about that because I feel like 32 is a normal weight for my height. At least that's what all the websites with scales tell me but maybe they are wrong? Since as I said I can't believe something just becaues it's written. I've only had the IUD for a few weeks though. My BMI has also always been normal.
One important note: I was those few inches above before taking the rhodiola. You could say that it was the exercise but I've stopped exercising as much but still take that every now and then and my weight stays the same. Again my diet hasn't really changed and I certainly feel less stressed too which speaks volumes when I'm a pessimist.
Humans are more alike than different. That is not saying there are no differences at all.
"Yes they said I had no infection and I took it the next time for 7 days like he said to try and it made my stomach feel worse." This is unclear. If you "had no infection" what were you treated for and with what? You were treated twice but did not complete the course of medication either time?
It is not clear what you mean when you say "stomach". Are you talking about the organ that digests food or do you mean your entire abdomen? It looks like you are talking about both and using "stomach" to mean both. By "inches" do you mean the measurement around your waist? We do not measure weight in inches, so what is "32"?
An IUD will do nothing to worsen your gastritis or to increase your waist measurement. If you are still having vaginal symptoms it may be that the original condition has not resolved. A follow up visit to your gynecologist might be helpful to recheck that. You should also talk to your doctor about the IUD, because you seem to have some misinformation about it.
Humans are more alike than different. That is not saying there are no differences at all.
"Yes they said I had no infection and I took it the next time for 7 days like he said to try and it made my stomach feel worse." This is unclear. If you "had no infection" what were you treated for and with what? You were treated twice but did not complete the course of medication either time?
It is not clear what you mean when you say "stomach". Are you talking about the organ that digests food or do you mean your entire abdomen? It looks like you are talking about both and using "stomach" to mean both. By "inches" do you mean the measurement around your waist? We do not measure weight in inches, so what is "32"?
An IUD will do nothing to worsen your gastritis or to increase your waist measurement. If you are still having vaginal symptoms it may be that the original condition has not resolved. A follow up visit to your gynecologist might be helpful to recheck that. You should also talk to your doctor about the IUD, because you seem to have some misinformation about it.
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"Yes they said I had no infection and I took it the next time for 7 days like he said to try and it made my stomach feel worse." This is unclear. If you "had no infection" what were you treated for and with what? You were treated twice but did not complete the course of medication either time?
The gastritis and when taking the PPI for 7 days like he said to do the symptoms got worse. I felt more abdominal pain and more inflamed. My best way of describing it is my stomach was angry and acting out on it. It is difficult to describe gastritis in words because it's a feeling to me like no other.
Yes I mean the measurement around my waist.
I'm not saying it increased my waist measurement. I'm saying it made my stomach distended. That is the confusing part. My stomach is not flat but it's a normal weight measurement. Well actually it could worsen the gastritis because with the heavier periods and the shifting (the OB said it will sometimes shift and cause me ovary pain) it could stress out my stomach esp since it has demonstrated to somehow make my plantar fasciitis come back so if it can affect my feet then it can sure affect my stomach esp since one of the causes of plantar fasciitis seems to be my gastritis because before I got gastritis I was very healthy. But I'm not saying it's going to last..it might just be part of the adjustment period to have these problems. I am going to check my thyroid but I don't think that it is my thyroid because I would find it more difficult to lose weight and not just have a distended stomach. Plus my thyroid was shown as normal in May so I don't know what would have changed it.
Well if the original condition has not been resolved and they've had me on two antibiotics AND an antifungal less than a year span, plus the cream then that means the medicine is a joke. I did not mind the cream so much since it is external but it's clearly been useless. But I may have to if it doesn't go away..I just hope to hell the doctor doesn't decide to put me on another antibiotic.
But they did test to see if I had an infection anymore and I didn't but yet I still have this discomfort.
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