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Old 10-23-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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The thing is you still have a very American-centric view of the world. China is only doing what the West has done for a very long time. Why is it bad for China to do what the US has done to Latin America for 100 years? Besides, unlike the US, the Chinese don't have a father knows best attitude like the West has. They see other countries as bisiness partners, not helpless basket cases that need to be rescued.
The US just gave a ton of aid to Haiti for the big hurricane that hit so that's what America has been doing to Latin America. China is nothing like the US and we don't do things the way they do. China doesn't legitimately care about other countries, or even its own people. Only how they can profit from them and take advantage of them. They have no ethics. Meanwhile, China still has hundreds of millions of poor people. China doesn't have a father knows best attitude because they don't care about anybody. The US traditionally likes countries like Phi. that are free and a Democracy
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Old 10-23-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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The US just gave a ton of aid to Haiti for the big hurricane that hit so that's what America has been doing to Latin America. China is nothing like the US and we don't do things the way they do. China doesn't legitimately care about other countries, or even its own people. Only how they can profit from them and take advantage of them. They have no ethics. Meanwhile, China still has hundreds of millions of poor people. China doesn't have a father knows best attitude because they don't care about anybody. The US traditionally likes countries like Phi. that are free and a Democracy
Haiti doesn't need aid, they need INFRASTRUCTURE, not freebies! NGOs and USAID giving poor countries freebies is precisely holding them back. The Chinese are in other countries developing infrastructure for their own ends, and leaving the locals to their own devices to make use of it. In other words, China treats its clients as businesses, not welfare recipients. In fact, I would say we should apply the Chinese model to our own welfare system, too but that's a topic for another thread

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I didn't say there was anything "wrong". The Chinese don't have a "Father knows best" mentality? Really? Lol, ok. All I can suggest is to read my post a little closer. Maybe try to not think like an American , just for a minute. I have a game that we brought back from the PI, played on a round board, with marbles. The object is to jump the pieces, till only one is left in the center. This game is a real insight into the Asian mind. You can't beat it if you think like a non Asian.

No, a PI, Chinese "partnership" has nothing "wrong" with it. But the ...specifics..of that partnership , well, that depends on your way of thinking.
You're still being paranoid about the intentions of the Chinese. We only use foreign land for military bases, and that's about it. China, of course, wants military bases too, but at least they pump money into the larger economy. Who cares if they don't do it for altruistic reasons, we NEVER did anything for altruistic reasons, either. Yes, even the Marshal Plan wasn't a giveaway. They had to pay us back.
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Old 10-23-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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The US just gave a ton of aid to Haiti for the big hurricane that hit so that's what America has been doing to Latin America. China is nothing like the US and we don't do things the way they do. China doesn't legitimately care about other countries, or even its own people. Only how they can profit from them and take advantage of them. They have no ethics. Meanwhile, China still has hundreds of millions of poor people. China doesn't have a father knows best attitude because they don't care about anybody. The US traditionally likes countries like Phi. that are free and a Democracy
Aid to Haiti? LMAO....yeah, after spending millions to prop up brutal dictatorships on their island. Giving them aid is the least we can do.

You think we've treated our hemispheric neighbors well? Ask El Salvador, Chile, Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, Guatemala, or Panama! Listen to their stories about how benevolent we've been to their people, and how we showed so much respect for their attempts at achieving democracy and equality for their citizens. SMH
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Aid to Haiti? LMAO....yeah, after spending millions to prop up brutal dictatorships on their island. Giving them aid is the least we can do.

You think we've treated our hemispheric neighbors well? Ask El Salvador, Chile, Cuba, Venezuela, Argentina, Guatemala, or Panama! Listen to their stories about how benevolent we've been to their people, and how we showed so much respect for their attempts at achieving democracy and equality for their citizens. SMH
Just more Yellow Peril BS and how only white people have good intentions and can save the world classic Messiah complex

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit...rative_in_film
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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Just more Yellow Peril BS and how only white people have good intentions and can save the world classic Messiah complex

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whit...rative_in_film
Only "White People"?
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Mmmm...no. The PI is much more like SE Asia, than Western countries. Culture and lifestyle wise anyway. They, of course, adapted to benefit from the presence of other countries, especially the US. Now, they are looking to China. The dictatorship is anyway. They need a heavy foreign presence to bring in money. The "government" will benefit the most, but the people will as well. Adapting to cater to the wants and need of whoever is there and has money to spend. Just like they did with the US.

There is a term, in Asia, "fragrant grease". This isn't lost on the current regime. He's just fishing around to see who can rub the most on his hands. China may do so, but they will never view Filipinos as equals, or even as valued ally or as an asset. Other than a regional staging ground, that is. Their only problem with the Philippines, is that it's full of Filipinos. Rest assured, though, the can find a use for them. China is pretty good at...managing human assets, as it were.

You actually think the united states treated them any differently?
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Old 10-23-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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Only "White People"?
Unless you can provide concrete examples of other people trying to save the world from themselves or have that kind of mentality. I'll wait
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Old 10-23-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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Only "White People"?
Yep. Look at the record.
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Unless you can provide concrete examples of other people trying to save the world from themselves or have that kind of mentality. I'll wait
Don't hold your breath.
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Old 10-23-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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Yep. Look at the record.


Don't hold your breath.
I forgot to mention on the topic of dictatorships, you can add the Philippines to that list with Ferdinand Marcos. He was propped up by the US and given refuge by Reagan when the SHTF. Just remember, if you're a dictator and you want to hunt people for sport in your country without consequences, kneel and pledge your allegiance to the almighty USA and no one speaks evil of you.

The only difference between good and bad dictators are who they pledge allegiance to.
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Old 10-23-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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U.S. companies invest more then 17.6 billion dollars to the Philippine economy. The US was expected to give 66 million per year for the US based military. 2.6 million Filipinos mostly foreign born live in the U.S. Illegal immigration, though small, continues to increase. Obviously life is better here than over there. Perhaps Duterte should keep his mouth shut and focus on raising the poorest of the poor out of poverty.
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