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Old 10-01-2016, 12:02 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The State of Alabama suspended him, not the Feds. Their state constitution has provisions that allow it, and it is all perfectly legal. The Federal government had nothing at all to do with the matter.

He was given a fair warning, too.

He cannot change the State Constitution from the bench. Especially by coercion.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:08 AM
 
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Have all of you read the order suspending him? Cause really...they listed multiple reasons, and laid it out.

Here:
http://judicial.alabama.gov/judiciar...t_09302016.pdf

Because I dont think all of you are understanding this very well.

Read the first page at least.
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:11 AM
 
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Have all of you read the order suspending him? Cause really...they listed multiple reasons, and laid it out.

Here:
http://judicial.alabama.gov/judiciar...t_09302016.pdf

Because I dont think all of you are understanding this very well.

Read the first page at least.
We can create a list of reasons to suspend liberal judges.
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:21 AM
 
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I think we found Trump's new Attorney General pick.
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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He cannot change the State Constitution from the bench. Especially by coercion.
Who are you referring to?
It wasn't a 'he' who suspended the judge! And the judge certainly didn't suspend himself from the bench!
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Old 10-01-2016, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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We can create a list of reasons to suspend liberal judges.
And if those lists show such violations the judicial canons of the State of Alabama, according to the decision of the State Judicial Committee, then a liberal judge should be suspended.

Every state uses lawyers to judge other lawyers. All have very strict ethical standards that, like them or not, they all have to adhere to. Those standards are codified in the canons, and are not arbitrary.

The State Supreme courts have to adhere to the strictest professional ethics of all, especially the Chief Justice, the person who leads the court.

No one, even the topmost law official in any state, is above the law, and cannot arbitrarily decide what to enforce or not, or is legal or not. Those must be decided only in the proper manner, or all laws are worthless.

Since Chief Justice Moore was an elected official and broke no criminal laws, he cannot be sent to prison. But by violating the ethical standards, he can be suspended from performing the duties of his office, and was, once before.

The latest suspension, in May 2016, was temporary, so that the issue could be discussed before a final decision. Judge Moore himself requested a summary decision on the matter, which sped the process up. And now he has what he requested.

This second decision now renders him powerless for the rest of his term. He cannot participate in the proceedings of the court, will receive no salary, and will do nothing but stare at an empty desk, but he can still run for the office again once his term is up.

Judge Moore was suspended from office like this once before, in 2003, and was serving as Chief Justice then as well. He was re-elected 10 years later, in 2013, and his term in office ends in January, 2019.

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Old 10-01-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Who are you referring to?
It wasn't a 'he' who suspended the judge! And the judge certainly didn't suspend himself from the bench!

Don't play stupid with me.

The judge in question, cannot change the State Constitution from the bench. Especially by coercion.
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Don't play stupid with me.

The judge in question, cannot change the State Constitution from the bench. Especially by coercion.
Are you in denial?

Are you suggesting that Moore was not suspended?

Are you suggesting Moore will continue to carry on because he did nothing to warrant a suspension?
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Old 10-01-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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That part of the state constitution has already been ruled invalid because it conflicts with federal law. No state law can conflict with federal law. State judges are required to ALSO uphold federal law. They cannot pick and choose which laws they want to follow because of their religion.
I can imagine the screaming if an Islamic judge refused to uphold laws because they differed from Sharia law.
He cannot use his religious beliefs to discriminate.
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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That part of the state constitution has already been ruled invalid because it conflicts with federal law. No state law can conflict with federal law. State judges are required to ALSO uphold federal law. They cannot pick and choose which laws they want to follow because of their religion.
I can imagine the screaming if an Islamic judge refused to uphold laws because they differed from Sharia law.
He cannot use his religious beliefs to discriminate.
Exactly..well said.
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