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Old 10-02-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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No one is starting any war, particularly the US.
Say this Iraqis.

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This is just an idle threat by Russia to support Assad.
You have a very interesting logic. It's like why is the wind blowing? Because trees are swinging. Right?
There is no any kind of threat by Russia. The threat is the refractory obsessional idea of the international terrorist organisation that located in Washington, DC to overthrow Assad.

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Old 10-02-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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The US will start the war, Russia will end it.
Maybe.

But Russia will probably never recover once flattened, the US will. Russia's "Mexico" if talking power and a "get it done" attitude.

Too; IF Japan and NATO stepped in, Russia will fold, nukes or no nukes. Even China and Iran will be toast, Israel will deal with the mad mullahs and Vietnam and friends will take down China.
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Old 10-02-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Some how or other this is all about OIL. I do not understand the details but it does involve building a pipeline to ship Iraqi Oil to Europe cheaper then Russian of Saudi suppliers.


Overall it is past time, hell the First Crusade was a mistake, for the west to just get and stay out of this CF. This includes all of the Muslim controlled communities as well a so called secular Egypt and Jewish Israel. None of their problems are either our or Europe's.


We do not need to import immigrant labor from there and, for that matter, neither does Europe. Most of the supposed labor demand can be made up with further mechanization and computerization of menial tasks or just paying enough for these tasks that our own citizens will be willing to do the work.


In simple terms - WE NEED TO ISOLATE OUR COUNTRIES AND ECONOMIES FROM THE ARABS AND THEIR NEIGHBORS!
Yep. The Qatar-Turkey pipeline would run from Qatar, North into Suadi Arabia, then up into Iraq, then cross Syria, into Turkey where the US Big Oil/the Saudis & Qatar would be able to flood Europe with their gas & oil. The challenge is that Russia currently supplies that market, their economy depends on it & they intend to defend it. That's why the US is demonizing Assad & Russia is defending him. The US is using the exact same nonsense that worked with Saddam ("He's an evil dictator", "He's killing his own people", "He's got WMD's", "He gassed his own people"), so they can take control of Syria, the missing link in their pipeline. The US corporate/Saudi/Qatar contingent actually made an offer to the Assad that he refused & instead allowed Russia to build pipelines. Coincidentally (ahem), Russia's other main pipelines & point of entry into the European market happens to be in Ukraine. That's really all you need to know.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Say this Iraqis.



You have a very interesting logic. It's like why is the wind blowing? Because trees are swinging. Right?
There is no any kind of threat by Russia. The threat is the refractory obsessional idea of the international terrorist organisation that located in Washington, DC to overthrow Assad.
Wasn't that you starting another thread claiming Kerry's statement this week was a declaration of war, what's your take on Russia's threat.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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Maybe.

But Russia will probably never recover once flattened, the US will. Russia's "Mexico" if talking power and a "get it done" attitude.

Too; IF Japan and NATO stepped in, Russia will fold, nukes or no nukes. Even China and Iran will be toast, Israel will deal with the mad mullahs and Vietnam and friends will take down China.
You are deeply mistaken in all the ways.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Wasn't that you starting another thread claiming Kerry's statement this week was a declaration of war, what's your take on Russia's threat.
Kerry's statement? It was Kirby who openly threatens Russia with terrorist attacks. It was like he gave the go-ahead command to his auxiliaries in the Islamic State.
But what your question has to do with what I was saying in my previous post? I see no logic connection.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:24 PM
 
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Yep. The Qatar-Turkey pipeline would run from Qatar, North into Suadi Arabia, then up into Iraq, then cross Syria, into Turkey where the US Big Oil/the Saudis & Qatar would be able to flood Europe with their gas & oil. The challenge is that Russia currently supplies that market, their economy depends on it & they intend to defend it. That's why the US is demonizing Assad & Russia is defending him. The US is using the exact same nonsense that worked with Saddam ("He's an evil dictator", "He's killing his own people", "He's got WMD's", "He gassed his own people"), so they can take control of Syria, the missing link in their pipeline. The US corporate/Saudi/Qatar contingent actually made an offer to the Assad that he refused & instead allowed Russia to build pipelines. Coincidentally (ahem), Russia's other main pipelines & point of entry into the European market happens to be in Ukraine. That's really all you need to know.
Good observation.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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When is enough , enough? Can we bring our troops home and work on America? Im so sick of this administration's failed,retarded middle east policy. John Kerry and Obama are a total joke on how they handle the middle east...

I swear, every day Obama is in office. The world loses any respect it has for our country. We have no right to be in syria and really need to stop spreading this false hope of "democracy"....

Let Russia and Assad Clean up the mess we started... Why do we have to keep paying for this nonsense?


I understand Russia's perspective on the whole matter, and feel that we have no right to even be in Syria. Even the rebels that the Obama Regime keeps supplied laugh at him....


Russia Warns Against US Attack on Syrian Forces - ABC News
But, I thought Obama said that it wasn't him who drew the "Red Line" that it was the whole world!?
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Old 10-02-2016, 10:07 PM
 
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You are deeply mistaken in all the ways.
Uh; Hitler said the US was just a bunch of "children" or something like that before WW 2, that didn't end well for that nazi.

Like I said: Russia's NOTHING in 2016 without its nukes and, Putin knows it. Their pop's dropping every year and, with oil prices really low, Russia's going broke.

Sorry; we're onto to how Russia rolls and, we ain't taking the bait unless Putin does something real stupid then it WILL be game ON.
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Old 10-02-2016, 10:29 PM
 
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Uh; Hitler said the US was just a bunch of "children" or something like that before WW 2, that didn't end well for that nazi.
Right. Russia annihilated them.

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Like I said: Russia's NOTHING in 2016 without its nukes and, Putin knows it.
You know it, Putin don't.
You're so funny guy... misinformed and arrogant. NOBODY can win a conventional war with Russia.
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